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    I had made a comment while watching the game that it seemed to me that the Pats were coming to the line from the no huddle at an amazing lightning speed. Much faster than I had ever noticed any other team use the no huddle that quickly. I have labeled it "The Lightning Speed" No huddle.

    That, BTW, is a testament to the intelligent players that Belichick likes to draft.

    In one of the articles I read this morning that Gronk said that they were getting to the line, ready to go, in many instances where the officials had to scurry to get back into position before the snap of the ball.

    This is a great weapon. Especially for a team that has a "Tom Brady" calling the plays and with what appears to be an improved running game, something that opposing defenses, now, can not take lightly.

    I would hope that Josh McDaniel's sees what he now has and doesn't, all of a sudden, veer off course.
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    I was really impressed with this ability to go at lightening speed (which seemed to be put into place to combat Manning, who does the same thing). The only time it hurt us, IMO, was on that 4th down call where Brady almost got killed. The Pats didn't look ready and the massive rush against Brady seemed to gel because our own players weren't ready for the play.
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    Yeah, I tuned into the Sunday night game and it looked like the Saints and Chargers were playing in slooooow motioooon. I wonder if the Pats will be able to do something similar in a noisy stadium where communication is difficult.
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    That is a very valid question making it very important that the Pats score early and take the crowd out of the game.
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    It's an offensive blitzkrieg.
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    If they continue to use this and perfect it, the quick no huddle will need a name.

    And "Please, Mr. Brady, can I get set first" won't do.

    Maybe Formula One Package to counter the nascar package.
    Sikorsky No Huddle
    Tachus Offensus

    nah, I got nothing tonight.
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    Brady, motioning to the other team's bench, "Hey guys, we're ready to go. Would you like to send out your defensive unit."
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    The New England Ducks?

    I wonder if this has any future ramifications beyond having an uptempo offense. Draft picks/coaching/lighter faster Pats offense?

    Maybe it means nothing more than that it makes perfect sense to pull in the best from CFB's best offense and the continuing relationship with Nick Saban and CFB's best defense.

    Mods: Sorry but didn't see the "The "Lightning Speed" No Huddle" thread. Probably best to merge mine into there if you so feel
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    This no huddle is so fast it makes the no huddle not fast!
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    This!

    How about "Mach Brady"
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    Re: The New England Ducks?

    It appears that Chip Kelly worked with Matt Patricia too. What I'd give to see a Crimson Tide-like defense from the Patriots.
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    Re: The New England Ducks?

    I hope he gave McDaniels some tips to deal with the fake injuries for when they start popping up as a means to slow down the tempo. Some Oregon student put together a really hilarious YT video of Ducks opponents faking injury to stop the speed no-huddle, intersplicing it with European soccer players practicing how to fake injuries on the field. I can't for the life of me, find it.
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    Re: The New England Ducks?

    I really liked Lamichael James, and was hoping they would pick him in the draft. Though we have several players like him, he just has an extra gear that Woodhead and Vereen don't have.
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    Re: The New England Ducks?

    I liked James too, but with Woodhead and Vereen he would be redundant, I disagree that Woodhead doesn't have that gear and Vereen is stronger and still has home run speed.
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    Re: Bedard:patriots no-huddle relies on power of one

    This article is a must-read. Fantastic stuff from Bedard.
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    Re: Bedard:patriots no-huddle relies on power of one

    Let the patriots be the trendsetters for offense in this league from 2001 to 2010 , BB has changed this so often, run and play defense to spread formation in 2007 like urban meyer's offense to now chip kelly's offense. Just amazing, wish people realized this more around the league instead of constantly hating the pats. And us pats fans, who knows how long this creativity will last ...enjoy it to the fullest.
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    Re: Bedard:patriots no-huddle relies on power of one

    Hopefully the defense can't hear the plays called. I would think a smart opposing defense and coaching staff would be able to diagnose the plays if they can hear Brady, by the time they've seen the same play multiple times, and synch up the words with the play. Then again, they are going so fast, it'd be hard for the defense to communicate and be on the same page on what they think they are about to run on the next play.
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    I find it odd that Kelly is being credited with any of this when fast no-huddle offenses have been the rage throughout college ball for more than a decade.

    I guess I first saw it at Texas Tech with the old coach there (was his name Leach?) but Okie State did it, the WV coach Holgorsen did it when he was an assistant, I know Oklahoma has been doing it for at least 5 years.

    Maybe it started as a B12 thing.

    Also, the one word play calling is smart, and you hear Brady utter multiple ones. Only one of them is the key, and it's probably a sequence the players already know. When I played football, the playcalls were of the very long variety, but when I went over to Rugby in college, we used a system similar to the power of one for lineouts and scrums. Basically, in the line "Derby F**** Nottingham," none of the letters in each word appear in the other word, so when the scrum half or the hooker called a play by uttering one word, we would know by the first letter of the word. Audibles were always signaled by alcohol names or cigarettes. This is only trouble if a player is not familiar with alcohol or cigarettes.

    Anyhow, having easy to remember codes like this is much simpler than a string of variables.
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    I think it's interesting that what brought Kelly here was his longstanding relationship with much maligned by the kneejerk contingent former NEP OC BOB. Who began running it here last season and is running it at Penn State with unanticipated success. Where he has dubbed it NASCAR.
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    I don't care what it is called, so long as it is can be called "successful".
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    Patriots need to save this type of stuff for playoff games, instead of showing their hand and becoming predictable.

    It's a good way to run the offense, but its even better when the defense doesn't expect it.
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    This new wrinkle may be tough to execute on the road - I guess we will find out - b/c if it was good to run against the Broncos - it should be excellent to try against the Seahawks. It will be interesting to see if it works/can work in a hostile environment like Seattle. It will be excellent in the playoffs - at home - we will see about road games.
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    Mike Leach, yep.

    And that scheme worked in part because of some short receiver they had who had this knack for getting open. . . . If only the Pats had that guy on their team. . . .

    Oh, wait, they do. :D
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    Great Bedard article on the No-Huddle

    Quick and to the point(s) - Patriots - Boston.com

    Really good stuff from Bedard here.

    Definitely worth the read.
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    Re: Great Bedard article on the No-Huddle

    Phenomenal read, crazy Bedard was able to get Brady and Belichick on record. I have watched almost every Oregon game over the past 3 years. And since last year I swore the Pats where running some version of that.

    Pretty interesting to read also how Oregon is able to do it, with one word play calls..
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    Re: Great Bedard article on the No-Huddle

    Read it this morning and agree that it's a great read.

    What's interesting to note is that even though Chip's influence on our offense started a few year back, we haven't drafted any of his players particularly on offense. I imagine OL is the position where we could really benefit from a program like Oregon if this is the offense we're going to be running going forward.
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