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  1. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    When we discuss DL's, some posters have indicated that they want to keep 7 or 8 DL's. When we discuss safeties, some want to keep 5. Some want a 6th corner. On offense some want 3 or 4 QB's (incl. Edleman), 5 or 6 RB's (incl. an hback), 9 OL's or 4 TE's. Unfortunately, the roster has only 53 players.

    See below for the 44 core positions of our team. Some folks might even think that we could have fewer players at some positions. I doubt that we will go lower that what I have listed. I understand that some of these players listed might get beaten out for the roster spots, so this is not a listing of locks. It is also not an attempt at the active roster.
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    WHAT POSITIONS WILL CONSTITUTE THE LAST NINE ROSTER SPOTS?

    CHOOSE NINE POSITONS, GIVE UP ON NINE POSITIONS
    All would be nice to have; we only get half. Obviously, the final tradeoffs and roster spot come on the last day or even between Game 1 and Game 2 when the roster is finalized (before further injuries).

    OFFENSE
    #3 QB
    #4 QB
    #5 RB/FB/HB
    #4 TE
    #5 WR/STer
    #6 WR/STer
    #7 WR/STer
    #5 OG/C
    #10 OL

    DEFENSE
    #6 DL
    #7 DL
    #8 DL
    #8 LB
    #9 LB
    #10 LB
    #5 CB
    #6 CB
    #5 S
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    CORE ROSTER POSITONS

    OFFENSE (21)
    QB (2) Brady, O'Connell
    RB (4) Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Maroney
    WR (4) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis
    TE (3) Watson, Baker, Smith
    OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
    OG/C (4) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Ohrnberger

    DEFENSE (20)
    DL (5) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Brace
    OLB (4) Thomas, Crable, Banta-Cain, Woods
    ILB (3) Mayo, Guyton, Bruschi
    CB (4) Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Butler
    S (4) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan/Williams

    SPECIALISTS (3)
    K (1) Gostkowski
    P (1) Hansen
    LS (1) Hodel/Ingram
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    That is an GREAT breakdown and really what the Pats will be facing basically without any injuries which will ONLY make it easier...the one thing is that I see is there may be some ST players that are LBs or DBs as well....not just WRs..
    It sums up what the tradeoffs are in the last roster spots..I agree with the 44...not sure WHo could make any other legitimate addition to that...
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    I don't think there's any reason to dump Thomas at TE. If they're planning on trading Watson if possible, maybe they keep a tight end on special teams or PUP, temporarily.

    Thomas has been injured, then behind Watson, but I wouldn't give him away. He's showed some skills and competitiveness when given a chance.

    I do think Watson won't get the kind of contract he wants here.
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    Great idea. I don't have time to work it all through, but here are the easiest ones:

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    i think we have more core positions than that....

    i would put wilhite as a lock
    as well as either of green/lekevin
    and another body as backup OG/C at the very least....


    so thats 3 less right there


    EDIT:
    nvm, Fencer pretty much covered it b4 me....
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    also, with the third QB, we only have 5 spots left to fill

    i say fill them with one WR who plays ST, and one OLB who plays ST....mostly as locks

    and we are left with 3 spots....
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    OLB who plays ST is Guyton, WR who plays special teams is Aiken or Slater.

    There's another slot that will be filled in CB by Jonathan Wilhite, it's a $277,550 loss if he is cut and given that they have had problems keeping DBs healthy and he was a starter last year at the end of the year it wouldn't make sense to cut him.
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    guyton has already been counted as a lock at ILB
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    My mistake, I didn't see him in there...

    Replace him with Vince Redd at OLB then... I also think they devote a roster spot to another ILB in the form of Ciurciu who takes over Larry Izzo's role as special teamer/linebacker.
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    I was wondering recently about how the changes to the special teams rules might affect the back end of the roster.

    I'll cite this old entry from Reiss.: Impact of wedge rule - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

    LeKevin, Wright and Hochstein were in the wedge. This might go against Smith making the team.

    I don't read the forums here thouroghly, so I appologize in advance if someone else already brought this up.
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    Fencer,
    I certainly agree with your first three. I have incorporated them below. I don't think any of the others are all that clear. Some would say that we have to have 8 or 9 linebackers, ignoring our history of having those positions filled by players who almost never got on the field as a linebacker, or shouldn't have. Examples include Izzo, Davis and Alexander.

    WHAT POSITIONS WILL CONSTITUTE THE LAST SIX ROSTER SPOTS?

    CHOOSE SIX POSITONS, GIVE UP ON NINE POSITIONS
    All would be nice to have; we only get half. Obviously, the final tradeoffs and roster spot come on the last day or even between Game 1 and Game 2 when the roster is finalized (before further injuries).

    OFFENSE
    #3 QB
    #4 QB
    #5 RB/FB/HB
    #4 TE
    #5 WR/STer
    #6 WR/STer
    #7 WR/STer
    #10 OL

    DEFENSE
    #7 DL
    #8 DL
    #8 LB
    #9 LB
    #10 LB
    #6 CB
    #5 S
    ============================================
    47 CORE ROSTER POSITONS

    OFFENSE (22)
    QB (2) Brady, O'Connell
    RB (4) Taylor, Faulk, Morris, Maroney
    WR (4) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis
    TE (3) Watson, Baker, Smith
    OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
    OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Ohrnberger, Hochstein/Johnson

    DEFENSE (22)
    DL (6) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Brace, Smith/Green
    OLB (4) Thomas, Crable, Banta-Cain, Woods
    ILB (3) Mayo, Guyton, Bruschi
    CB (5) Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Butler, Wilhite
    S (4) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan/Williams

    SPECIALISTS (3)
    K (1) Gostkowski
    P (1) Hansen
    LS (1) Hodel/Ingram

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    Great post. Thanks for breaking it down and giving me yet another distraction from work on a Friday before a long weekend.:)
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    why dont you wait for training camp to let this unfold, stop with the dailey questions and go enjoy this beautiful weather, take a break
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    And what about those of us stuck at work on a Friday before a holiday weekend, eh? Beautiful weather will have to wait, I appreciate the conversation starter.

    That being said, I'll take (position/my preference):
    #3 QB/Gutierrez
    #5 RB/FB/Kettani (my dark horse- love the Navy fullbacks)
    #5 WR/ST/Aiken
    #6 WR/ST/Slater
    #9 OL/Bussey (for the G/T versatility)
    #9 LB/Redd
    #10 LB/ST Alexander
    #5 CB/Wilhite
    #5 S/McGowan (I say Wiliams is #4)

    My toughest choices are the #9 OL and Alexander @ ILB vs. David Thomas @ #4 TE.
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    Seems like at least 1 more WR is a must, as well as at least 1 more lb, and I would guess a #3 QB, leaving 3 spots for the rest of the roster.

    Unfortunatly injuries will upset this nice clean setup. Need to look closly at the rookies since we usually give guys at least a year.
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    its people like you that bring this country's production down if your at work than work and earn your salary, dont look at this forumn all day long!!
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    Off topic I know,

    But I thought i'd draw everyones attention to the sterling work being done by one of our newer posters - take a bow ivanfears!

    Always there with some great level headed advice he reminds us that we should all take some time to stop and smell flowers a little....we aren't just here to talk football you know!

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    I don't have an ignore list, but if I start one, I've got a prime spot for you.
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    your already on mine
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    How did you read that then?
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