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  1. All_Around_Brown

    All_Around_Brown In the Starting Line-Up

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    Was it just me or did this stand out for you to??

    "We kept asking ourselves, where's Rove??? Where are these other guys?" (paraphrased)

    The snakeoil salesmen in the Oval office must have cringed when he heard that guy speak out.

    DOH!!!! :bricks: Can't control the media. This aint China you moron.
     
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    Rove's lawyer saved his fat, corrupt ass by ordering him to voluntarily run back to Fitzgerald and re-remember some foggy details at the last minute... Details which contracted his previous 5 sessions with the prosecutor.... Several reporters remain convinced his indictment was ready to go, but that it stayed sealed in return for testimony... it's listed as case 06 cr 128, or "Sealed vs. Sealed"

    What is beyond certain is this: Patrick Fitzgerald is a meticulous professional... and he was not going to take on a case unless it has a 90%+ certainly of a conviction... He looked at the case he had against Pig Boy, and because of Pig Boy's "mia culpa" in GJ testimony number 6, he saw a case that had about a 75% chance of conviction... A risk he was not willing to take, especially after Alberto Gonzalez reportedly tapped him on the shoulder.

    This is the consensus deduction as reported by several high-profile journalists at both Newsweek and U.S. News & World...

    Cheney was also sufficiently buffered to where reasonable doubt could be displayed, ... at least enough to where a guy like Fitzgerald wasn't risking failure, even though he has a substantial case against the Dark Lord if he wanted the risk...

    Like the juror said: Libby, while guilty, "was the fallguy...." Slime flows downhill.
     
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    “On a personal level, friends of the vice president say the [Libby] trial has been deeply painful for him,” the New York Times reports. “Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney were all but inseparable — [ex-Cheney staffer Mary] Matalin has called the former aide ‘Cheney’s Cheney’ — and often started their days by riding to work together.”

    doesn't anyone get the icky visualization of Montgomery Burns and Wayland Smithers of Simpson's fame when thinking of these two?... "I... love you, sir"

    [​IMG]...
     
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    Have you ever seen the movie Mad City with Dustin Hoffman and John Travolta circa 1997? If anyone in here has not seen it, I highly recomend it. In the movie, they portray the media, and how they manipulate, or slant the news according to ratings, or to turn the publics position on the issue. It's truly magnificent. Anyway's, in one of the scenes, Travolta, the criminal, is watching his hostage ordeal on TV, and the news is interviewing some guy claiming to be Travolta's friend. Anyhow, the guy is on TV saying how Travolta is this and that, and Travolta is saying to himself, "who the hell is that guy? I don't know him". When you watch it, you realize you truly don't know who is who when it comes to the news.

    Honestly, the movie really fits this forum.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Is this the juror who worte for WaPo and is planning to write a book?
     
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    LOL... ok folks, we get it now...

    in patfans world, Cheney and his underlings have done nothing wrong, the jury was corrupt, the prosecutor was a witchhunter, and there really was WMDs in Iraq in 2003...

    wake up...
     
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    Info on the WaPo guy:

    http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003554336

    Registered Dem writing who runs off to to the Extreme Left win Huffington Post....RIIGGGGHHHHTTTTTT he was an objective juror, eh should have recused himself when his neighbor timmy russert was testifying.
     
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    They should have did they get their law degrees at Wal MArt? I don't know the law, but is this guys bahavior grounds for an appeal? Book deal and all?
     
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    If they can show he had outside biases that influenced his vote, then it could be grounds for appeal. If not, the book deal is irrelevant. Juries are supposed to become biased as the trial goes on, based on evidence and testimony, so unless the prosecution can show that the bias was pre-existing, it doesn't matter what he wants to do.
     
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    That really boggles the mind. How was this person on the jury? Isn't there a little conflict of interests here?
     
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    Hmmm....the conspiracy buffs in here will like this one. I wonder if they left him on as a juror because they could prove bias incase the verdict went against them. Hmm.....
     
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    Maybe not even prove, maybe simply to spin. On the surface, it does seem extremely odd that this guy would serve on a jury where his collegues, former co-workers, and friends were star witnesses. Were I in the Libby camp, I'd be working this tidbit, wouldn't you?
     
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    It will be interesting to see what he revealed when they were questioning him about being a juror compared to what he is saying now.
     
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    If the information was available to prosecutors during the jury selection phase, and they didn't bring it up then, they probably would not be able to appeal on that basis.
     
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    If he lied during jury selection, that could be grounds for having the conviction vacated. But if the prosecutors knew, or should have known, what his deal was, and didn't strike him (either by using one of their peremptory challenges, or by asking the judge), it's probably too late to bring it up now. It's funny how a few people here are looking for a way out for Libby.
     
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    The Juror Is A "Bush Hater" It Was Written All Over Him, He Couldn't Hide It.
    :bricks:
     
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    #80 Jersey

    "Of course the jury was confused! How smart could these people be if they couldn't get out of jury duty?!"

    -Stephen Colbert
     
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    IF the jury was tainted that wouldn't constitute a way out it would constitute an unfair trial. A lot of the prosecutions case was he said she said between Russert and Libby, the jury believed that Russert had the better memory, could this guy's friendshp have swayed the jurors, if he backed Russert?

    No way to know with out being in the jury room.

    Looks like the defense screwed the pooch in not excluding this guy at the very least. Wonder what will come out about the other jurors?
     
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    Hey Pujo what do you make of this question from the national review blog?

    ;)
     

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