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  1. DarrylS

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    From the LA times, interesting how Japan carries out the death sentence....this is more my vision of how those who have exhausted all appeals should be housed until their sentence is carried out...

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...0,2614967.story?page=2&coll=la-home-headlines

    Awaiting Death's Footsteps
    On Japan's death row, prisoners never know when the hangman will come. Harsh conditions aim to calm, but critics call them inhuman.

    The Japanese government says 75 inmates await execution, living under rules set out in a 1908 prison law and tightened by directives in 1963:

    They are prohibited from talking to other prisoners. Their contact with the outside world is limited to infrequent, supervised visits from family or their lawyers. They are not allowed hobbies or television, and may own only three books, though more can be borrowed with the warden's permission as long as the content is not deemed to preach "subversion of authority." Exercise is limited to two short sessions a week outside their cells, four solid walls and one small window. Some rely on sleeping pills, bought with money provided by their families, to survive the isolation.

    Many prisoners live in this purgatory for more than two decades while appeals against their sentences churn through Japan's notoriously sluggish legal system. But once appeals are exhausted, executions will come without notice, on the whim and with the stamp of the justice minister.

    There are no last meals. Hangings are carried out without witnesses, and the inmate's family members aren't informed until the prisoner is dead and they are told to collect the body.
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    This would be great for the two "Animals" that abducted, raped, then suffocated the little 10 yr old boy in Cambridge with a gasoline soaked rag, then one of the demented pedophile scum had sex with the little "dead body".
    Little Jeffrey Curley.

    In contrast to Japan these two "Vermin" now sit in prison with exercise machines, color TV, 3 meals a day, free dental/health care and they both have "NEW LOVERS".

    JESUS H CHRIST
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    #75 Jersey

    You never seemed the blasphemous type.

    I agree with Japan's way, except for one thing: Under me, the execution would be held in town square on Saturday afternoon. Free admission, and carried by network television.

    There is no greater crime deterrent than public execution.
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    The murderers of little Jeffrey Curley should have been put to death the day after they were found guilty. They are not fit to live, they are
    "worthless things". That little boy believed they were his friends.

    Killing them may not be the answer to others doing the same thing but it would insure that those two snakes would never enjoy sex with their "new partners" again, or watch TV.
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    #75 Jersey

    You'll get no argument here.
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    wow we all agree on something! I still think jail should re-inact the crime the victim committed for certain offenses. For example a rapist should have to spend upto an hour a day get drilled by a large d!ldo machine without lube so that he can feel the pain of his victim every single day of his sentence. I guarantee he will think twice about raping or molesting again if he ever gets out. If you kill someone and are sentenced to death you should have to die the same way your victim did. Those are just two of my thoughts on reforming the criminals.
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    Yea, Dryheat!!!
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    The death penalty is only a deterrent to those people who think they will get caught and the cold-blooded who calculate murders. If the death penalty worked, then you, Russia and South Africa would have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world. Most people who murder don't think of the consequences.
    That said, if you accept that people have murdered and their guilt is 100% certain (which is my main reason for being anti penalty) then their rights should be minimal.
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    Sure, in the current system. They get stuck in death row for 20 years, exercise, watch TV, eat well, etc. because somehow these things are interpreted as basic rights.

    Under my reign, Punishment shall be swift and brutal. DNA evidence should speed things up. There's no reason an appeal will take more than 90 days.

    Watching someone swing on a rope with a fat blue face and red marks around the next WILL give a would-be murderer the impetus to start thinking about the consequences.

    I'm also debating allowing people to hit the swinging body with sticks, like a pinata.
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    Let's not fantasize too much about how to abuse and torture criminals. People like the guy's who murdered Jeffrey Curley should be kept in jail for life, and as a matter of policy we should give extremely low priority to making prisons into rehabilitation centers. The important thing is to get the criminals off the streets. Once they're off the streets, we might as well set an example, rather than let the state legitimize sadism.
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    See, instead of getting criminals off the street, I think the important thing is to deter crime first, then getting those criminals off the street....by killing them. Even those who don't care if they die or not will be deterred if humiliated.

    Keep in mind that this is in cases where a death sentance has been passed down. I only reserve the death penalty for the worst brand of violent criminals.
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    By killing them you assure the law abiding public and their children that the murdering dog they just executed will never be around to "KILL AGAIN"

    As sure as God made green apple's the killers of little Jeffrey Curley will someday in the distant future come before some hand wringing weepy do-gooders that will say they have suffered enough and that they are all "well and hunky dory they have paid for their sins" they will be set free, no matter what the law says now. KILL THEM AND THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, SEND THEM TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG.
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    I think if a person did something heinous enough to warrant the death penalty, that person deserves to die in a gruesome manner. The only exception I would make for that is for condemned criminals in good health who choose to donate their organs -- in that case, they would be eligible for the nice easy needle.
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    Susan Sarandon once said she "weeped" when they sent Ted Bundy to meet the devil.

    I wonder if "Sappy Susan" ever weeped for the pretty young girls Bundy salughtered?

    It is people like Sarandon that have turned me into a Hard Core Flaming Neo Con.
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    If Jeff Curley's murderers were on death row in Japan, wouldn't they be on their toes everytime they heard footsteps. This is the way death row should be run, completely ruthless with no rights instead of our namby pamby way.
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    EXACTLY, NO NEW LOVERS EITHER, COMPLETE ISOLATION FOR AS LONG AS THEY LIVE OR TURN THEM LOOSE IN THE EXERCISE YARD WITH THE GENERAL POPULATION THEN LOOK THE OTHER WAY.

    THE RUN OF THE MILL CONVICT HATES "CHILD MOLESTERS" AND WILL KILL THEM JUST AS SWIFTLY AS THE EXECUTIONER.
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    History is replete with examples of people being convicted unfairly. Even in this country that's the case. Using some of the views in this thread, how many blacks would have been unfairly tortured to death for being found guilty of commiting heinous crimes, despite evidence to the contrary? How many socialists? How many union leaders? How many cultists? how many Indians? How many Catholics at one point? How many Arabs today?

    I believe the powers of the state must be restrained as a check against the potential abuses of the state. The murderers of Jeffrey Curley are clearly guility, but in the last few years there were major scandals in LA about police framing people or people otherwise being ill-served by justice.

    I'm against the death penalty in almost all cases, but if we must have a death penalty, let's keep it like it is -- relatively humane, because the person who we kill may in fact be innocent or be less guilty than we really know.
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    I am only for the death penalty if they are found guilty "Beyond a doubt" then they should be put to death swiftly no 20 yr appeal crap, just death, but leave no room for error if there is the slightest doubt they are innocent then no death penalty. I can think of no greater Terror than to have a rope put around your neck knowing you are "not the one".
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    What about those cases where the guilt of the murderer is not in doubt? Why should such a murderer not receive a gruesome death?
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    Exactly, that is what I said, when the bad guy is known to be guilty without doubt as the Curley boys murderers were, as Ted Bundy and others like him (Starkweather) were than the execution should be carried out swiftly.

    The convicts took care of Jeffrey Dahmer.

    John Wayne Gacy should have been chain dragged until he died.

    Crimes of passion or family argument killings that are not commited just for the sake of killing should be treated differently (my opinion)
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