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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I am on record saying I still give the patriots a chance to win another one without revis next year. I just think we will need more breaks than before because I don't think we will be as good, that's all.
Vital is not a correct word, as has been proven many times.A huge vital piece to the puzzle. He didn't "create" a winner but he was a big part in the patriots finally being able to close the deal and win another SB after 10 years of getting close and failing. I don't think anybody here is doubting that we will once again be in the mix to go to the SB next year and probably have another 12-4 season. With revis gone tho there is no denying that our chances at a repeat just took a huge hit. With brady gronk and belichick I still give us a shot, but I'm nowhere near as confident as of right now. Before I thought we were the clear cut best in the AFC. Now I think we will just be one of the good teams that has a chance. We will see how it plays out.
We wouldn't be as good at the other 52 roster spots if we gave Revis that contract.I am on record saying I still give the patriots a chance to win another one without revis next year. I just think we will need more breaks than before because I don't think we will be as good, that's all.
Coincidently, also tampered with by the Jets.add 2006 if Branch doesn't go postal
You seem to not understand the difference between a player and a team and what it takes to win.Its funny how everyone thinks now that this revis guy is just another player lol. He along with browner and dmac brung some toughness to this secondary. I already have my pats championship gear and will cherish it cause it could have been our last run with tom terrific.
Vital is not a correct word, as has been proven many times.
You are saying Revis is the difference between one play going our way in 2014 and one play not going our way in 2007 or 2011? Really?
I agree losing Revis hurts our chances, as opposed to the status quo (having him at a 7mill cap hit last year) but signing him to what it would have taken would have hurt our chances, very likely more.
Revis has lost more games than he has won in all non-Patriot years, so the idea that you can't win without him is naive. Before last year everyone that won didnt have him and whoever had him didn't win.
As I said, Revis won because he was a Patriot more than the Patriots won because of Revis.
Aren't we 5-3 in AFCCG without Revis?Is he irreplaceable to this team going 12-4 and getting to the AFC Championship? No. We can still do that. The problem is he is the difference between bowing out in the conference championship and winning the Lombardi.
The Pats have never won a title without a shut down corner. In 01,03-04 it was Law. Last year it was Revis. It's not so much that they lost Revis is that they lost a shut down corner and he cannot be replaced.
We will improve by whatever we spend the 16 million on that would have went to Revis.I think vital is the correct word. I'm saying revis was the difference between coming close and losing and finally getting over the hump. Yes, I am saying that. He is that big of a difference maker. He wasn't the only reason for us winning a SB, obviously, but its not a coincidence that the second we actually get a good defense we win the SB. To think otherwise would be naive. I also don't think for even a split second that keeping revis would have hurt as more. Only if he gets hurt or seriously declined would I buy that story. Also "Revis has lost more games than he has won in all non patriot years". Do I really have to explain why that statement is ridiculous?
Aren't we 5-3 in AFCCG without Revis?
The only shutdown cornerback pats had in 2004 was a shutdown-for-the-season Ty Law.The Pats have never won a title without a shut down corner. In 01,03-04 it was Law. Last year it was Revis. It's not so much that they lost Revis is that they lost a shut down corner and he cannot be replaced.
We will improve by whatever we spend the 16 million on that would have went to Revis.
Why is that statement ridiculous? We are talking about the value Revis brings in terms of winning. People are talking about him like he is the posterboy for winning.
Spending money other ways than chucking 12% of your cap at a corner has proven to be a better idea.
Yes, please explain how the success of teams with Revis on them is irrelevant and ridiculous to the discussion.
If we gave Revis this contract last year, we probably would not have won the SB.
Well from 01-04 we had an awesome defense. I'm more talking specifically about our inability to rebuild the D into an elite group post 01-04. I'm worried our D is going to go back to the way they've been from 2009-2013. Where they have 0 Super Bowls, and are 1-3 in the AFC Championship.
Perhaps. A shutdown corner also may have been able to keep the Giants under the 30:27 of possession they had, allowing the offense more time with the ball.The only shutdown cornerback pats had in 2004 was a shutdown-for-the-season Ty Law.
Would a shutdown cornerback have helped Pats to keep Giants under 17 points that they scored?
Yeah, in early March, five weeks after winning the Super Bowl. A thousand things can (and will) happen between now and Sept. 10, some of which might more than compensate elsewhere defensively for Revis's absence. BB will have a good plan, we just don't what it is yet and might not know 'til well into the next regular season.With revis gone tho there is no denying that our chances at a repeat just took a huge hit.