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If you've read my posts since last night's game, you know that I am a realist but have by no means given up on this season. But, I have been a bit philosophical this morning and, as some of you may know, I like studying the history of the NFL, back to its beginning and beyond.
Anyway, I looked at The Great Runs of the SB era. For the purposes of this analysis, I am defining a "Run" as three or more appearances in the SB with the same Coach and/or QB and with other key players in place across the run (I leave in the Runs that came up empty in terms of Rings because, as BB, says, it's a big mountain to climb and those teams all climbed it). Here's what it shows.
We should start with the Lombardi/Starr Packers, which straddled the beginning of the SB era, winning NFL and SB Championships in 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. An awesome run of five championships in seven years with a sixth appearance in the Championship Game in 1960. So, eight years, six Championship Games, Five Rings.
Next would be the Landry/Staubach(Morton) Cowboys. Between 1970 and 1978, they went to five SB's, winning two. So, nine years, five SB's, Two Rings.
Then, the Grant/Tarkenton(Knapp) Vikings. Between 1969 and 1976, they appeared in four SB's, unfortunately losing all of them. So, eight years, four SB's, No Rings.
Shula/Griese Dolphins. 1971--1973. Three years, three SB's, two Rings. (Shula went back to the SB in 1982 and 1984 with two different QB's. Technically, he spans, then, 24 seasons, but I have decided to treat him him as an anomaly because there is no continuity between the teams in the two decades.)
Noll/Bradshaw Steelers. 1974--1979. Six years, four SB's, four Rings.
Walsh(Seifert)/Montana Niners. 1981--1989. Nine years, four SB's, four Rings.
Reeves/Elway Broncos. 1986--1989. Four years, three SB's, no rings. (Like Shula, I am treating Elway as an anomaly. He went back to and won the SB in 1997 and 1998, but he did so after two HC changes, so I don't view his span of play as a "run" in the same way I view the others. Nonetheless, it is an extraordinary accomplishment by Elway, putting him among the greatest QB's of all time.)
Levy/Kelly Bills. 1990--1993. Four years, Four SB's, No Rings.
Johnson(Switzer)/Aikman Cowboys. 1992--1995. Four years, three SB's, three Rings.
Belichick/Brady Patriots. 2001--2007. Seven years (now nine), four SB's, three Rings.
What do I conclude from the above:
1) The Pats are in very good company, especially when we consider that they accomplished everything in the post-Cap/FA era.
2) The average "Run" (excluding Shula across three decades and multiple QB's and Elway across three coaches) is 6.8 years. Eight or nine seasons is historically about how long the longest "runs" last.
3) Elway and Shula are in a class by themselves, essentially going to the SB with very different teams wearing the same uniform, over a lengthy period.
4) There's nothing that says that Brady isn't Elway and won't win Rings when he is 37 and 38, as did John. There's also nothing to say that Belichick isn't Shula and won't coach the Pats for another ten years. But, if it doesn't work out that way, Brady and Belichick have already accomplished at the highest levels in a way comparable to the greatest teams of the last 50 years.
(Footnote: Between 1976 and 1983, the Raiders went to and won three SB's, but neither the Coaches (Madden/Flores) nor the QB's (Stabler/Plunket) overlapped, so they didn't fit my methodology.)
Anyway, I looked at The Great Runs of the SB era. For the purposes of this analysis, I am defining a "Run" as three or more appearances in the SB with the same Coach and/or QB and with other key players in place across the run (I leave in the Runs that came up empty in terms of Rings because, as BB, says, it's a big mountain to climb and those teams all climbed it). Here's what it shows.
We should start with the Lombardi/Starr Packers, which straddled the beginning of the SB era, winning NFL and SB Championships in 1961, 1962, 1965, 1966 and 1967. An awesome run of five championships in seven years with a sixth appearance in the Championship Game in 1960. So, eight years, six Championship Games, Five Rings.
Next would be the Landry/Staubach(Morton) Cowboys. Between 1970 and 1978, they went to five SB's, winning two. So, nine years, five SB's, Two Rings.
Then, the Grant/Tarkenton(Knapp) Vikings. Between 1969 and 1976, they appeared in four SB's, unfortunately losing all of them. So, eight years, four SB's, No Rings.
Shula/Griese Dolphins. 1971--1973. Three years, three SB's, two Rings. (Shula went back to the SB in 1982 and 1984 with two different QB's. Technically, he spans, then, 24 seasons, but I have decided to treat him him as an anomaly because there is no continuity between the teams in the two decades.)
Noll/Bradshaw Steelers. 1974--1979. Six years, four SB's, four Rings.
Walsh(Seifert)/Montana Niners. 1981--1989. Nine years, four SB's, four Rings.
Reeves/Elway Broncos. 1986--1989. Four years, three SB's, no rings. (Like Shula, I am treating Elway as an anomaly. He went back to and won the SB in 1997 and 1998, but he did so after two HC changes, so I don't view his span of play as a "run" in the same way I view the others. Nonetheless, it is an extraordinary accomplishment by Elway, putting him among the greatest QB's of all time.)
Levy/Kelly Bills. 1990--1993. Four years, Four SB's, No Rings.
Johnson(Switzer)/Aikman Cowboys. 1992--1995. Four years, three SB's, three Rings.
Belichick/Brady Patriots. 2001--2007. Seven years (now nine), four SB's, three Rings.
What do I conclude from the above:
1) The Pats are in very good company, especially when we consider that they accomplished everything in the post-Cap/FA era.
2) The average "Run" (excluding Shula across three decades and multiple QB's and Elway across three coaches) is 6.8 years. Eight or nine seasons is historically about how long the longest "runs" last.
3) Elway and Shula are in a class by themselves, essentially going to the SB with very different teams wearing the same uniform, over a lengthy period.
4) There's nothing that says that Brady isn't Elway and won't win Rings when he is 37 and 38, as did John. There's also nothing to say that Belichick isn't Shula and won't coach the Pats for another ten years. But, if it doesn't work out that way, Brady and Belichick have already accomplished at the highest levels in a way comparable to the greatest teams of the last 50 years.
(Footnote: Between 1976 and 1983, the Raiders went to and won three SB's, but neither the Coaches (Madden/Flores) nor the QB's (Stabler/Plunket) overlapped, so they didn't fit my methodology.)