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    Can anyone tell me what the Republicans want to do to create jobs (real jobs, not the $7.25 an hour jobs)?

    All I hear is tax cuts, tax cuts and more tax cuts and GOP controlled States in Ohio, Indiana and Texas "balances" budgets by cutting social safety nets and moving the burden to local governments.
     
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    WTF?

    But Republican Boehner said that tax increases are a nonstarter: "The American people will not accept – and the House cannot pass – a bill that raises taxes on job creators."

    Obama Holds Debt Ceiling Press Conference (VIDEO)

    Where are these job creators Mr Boehner?
     
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    You go GOP. Light Bulbs. It's all about light bulbs.

     
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    The only job opening he wishes to create is Obama's. The GOP is willing to destroy the economy, and further unemplyment to gain power. IF they get what they want they will have politically cut off their nose to spite their face.


    Its rediculous.




    Not a single jobs creating bill has gone through since the GOP took over the house. NOT ONE. Boehner's own website claims to have 2-3, but one is expanding offshore drilling, which assists Koch industries, and wouldn't create jobs. Also, never before in our nation's history have so many leases been granted. So he can suck it on that one.

    The other are Paul Ryan's budget, and repealing of Dodd Frank


    If the GOP plan works, they will have effectivly increased unemployment (to 12-15%). Cut federal and state workers, destroyed unions, defaulted the dollar, destroyed social safety nets (medicare, and social security) and increased military spending, while reducing revenue. (3 wars happening too)


    SOMEHOW, they want to captain THAT boat?


    frickin morons.......worse are those who support this mentality, and actually vote for it. Shame on you.
     
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    Political Animal - ‘A gamble where you bet your country’s good name’

    All of this could go away in a heartbeat. Republicans could do, today, exactly what they did repeatedly during the Bush years: simply vote to raise the debt ceiling in a clean bill and move on. The entire process could take literally a few minutes.

    But GOP officials don’t want to. They want to play a game in which the entire world could lose.

    How is this not the biggest political scandal in modern American history? How is it that those who claim the high ground on patriotism could put our financial well being on the line, on purpose, when they don’t have to?
     
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    The GOP has shown their true colours in Minnesota. The Governour is a Democrat and the GOP controlled house and senate wont budge. Minnesota has been shut down for 10, 11 days?

    Where was the outrage about spending between 2000-2008?
     
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    The GOP leadership might possibly be the dumbest/most childish group of people on the face of the Earth. or maybe.....just maybe they are the most Evil, and could care less.

    They could give a crap about you and me, and 99.999999% of Americans. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see what is going on here, who are the Kings and Queens and who are the Pawns. Its no secret...

    THEY ARE INVESTED IN AMERICA'S ECONOMIC FAILURE

    Bringing down this ship will make them rich, make Wall St. Rich, and plunge our nation into chaos. They will ride out the storm somewhere else. I was convinced a few weeks agao that this would be a non-issue...because Wall St would step in and stop the GOP from ruining the global economy, but...I was mistaken. They are doing this on purpose...


    They can raise the debt ceiling in minutes, but wish to crash the economy......WHY?


    THEY ARE INVESTED IN AMERICA'S ECONOMIC FAILURE


    (or they are bluffing)


    stay tuned....
     
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    The GOP's stance makes no sense to me. What is even more troubling is the people who live in trailer parks (The South) vote Republican. That makes no sense at all.

    Billy Bob, who lives in a double-wide, collects all kinds of Government aide while voting GOP every single time.

    For those of you reading this: Read "What is the matter with Kansas"
     
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    not that it makes any difference, but what is the democrats stance on how to create new jobs?
     
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    The Democrats have tried to put bills through the house but the GOP vote them down every single time.
     
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    what bills?
     
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    trickle up ... give more money to people so they can spend more at Walmart. :bricks:
     
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    or play more poker. Apparently that is now a safer investment than the stock market.
     
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    The Republican plan I think is to preach. They say that personal responsibility is the solution, but have no idea what that means or how to implement it. They say that tax cuts will create jobs, but there's absolutely no historical evidence to support that. In fact, Reagan (who they often cite) had to raise taxes and deficit spend in order to reverse the highest unemployment rates in modern history, save the Great Depression.

    The Democratic plan is simple: Raise taxes on the wealthy to pump money into the economy, which in turn will create jobs. It worked for Roosevelt, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama, though Obama had to contend with states laying off people as quickly as the stimulus hired them.
     
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    Government is overhead, necessary but should be minimized (Jefferson, 'That governs best that governs least'). Jobs are created by the private sector using capital. If you raise taxes on the 'rich' (ie investors people with money), you deprive them of the money to create / expand enterprise, they don't hire people. ie fewer jobs.

    I think Marco Rubio put it best when he said we don't need more taxes we need more taxpayers (ie people with jobs).

    The economy can't grow when government is consuming al the capital.
     
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    Unfortunately, there's no evidence that capitalism generates enough jobs to employ everyone. It may be the best system out there, but in reality it does not work very well. Hybrid systems seem to work the best and that is why most of the advanced world has migrated in that direction. Reagan tried what you said, but we had worse unemployment than even under Obama (and the unemployment lasted longer, and Carter's recession was considered less serious than Bush's). Ultimately, Reagan needed to raise taxes and increase deficit spending in order to get the economy back on track. Had we not cut taxes to the wealthy, we would not have a significant deficit issue at this point, which would create many more economic options for policymakers. I think it's pretty obvious that the tax cuts for the wealthy were a disaster to our nation.
     
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    Well there are no utopia's where everyone is employed. Certainly the bigger government policies being pursued by Pelosi/Reid ?obama have been a disaster since 2007.
     
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    by what basis?
     
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    How on earth did this country manage to create jobs between 1950 and 1980?
     

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