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  1. shmessy

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/sports/football/13colts.html?ref=sports

    .........It will be torn down and replaced with an expansion of the convention center. David Frick, the chairman of the Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority, said the current stadium cost $77.5 million to build. The new one will cost $720 million, he said, much of it paid by taxes on rental cars, luxury boxes, hotel and motel rooms, and restaurants, he said.

    “Today, stadiums are bigger,” Frick said. “They are more attuned to the corporate purchaser rather than the general fan. They are designed for maximizing the revenue.” That will come from more luxury boxes, club seats and advertising signs, he said.

    The Colts, not the taxpayers, will get the $121.5 million for the naming rights, Frick said. But the Colts’ Polian said the city would also benefit because a new stadium could lure a Super Bowl, national political conventions and other big events.

    “We’ve got a fighting chance,” he said of procuring more and bigger business for Indianapolis. “The building is going to cause a geometric ripple effect.”

    The new stadium is assured of the Final Fours of the men’s and women’s N.C.A.A. basketball tournaments.

    Polian said the Colts needed more revenue to compete for talent or they would become, he said, like the Montreal Expos, who moved to Washington. He said the Colts would have considered leaving town, just as they left Baltimore less than a quarter-century ago.

    “Fortunately, it didn’t come to that,” Polian said. “We love it here.”
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    What a scumbag
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    almost all stadiums are publically financed now, this isn't an Irsay issue.
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    Every man is responsible for his own actions. He just extorted almost a billion dollars from the people of Indiana under threat of abandoning the state. Like father like son.
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    Doesn't make it right.
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    It certainly sets Kraft apart from Irsay.

    Also the Irsay family is in a class with only Al Davis when it comes to multiple shystering of multiple cities.

    Massachusetts citizens are so lucky to have the Kraft family instead of the Irsays.
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    ok, but it also makes Irsay like 95% of all other current owners. that's why the thread title is misleading
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    Its not misleading, Kraft is the other 5%
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    Nothing misleading about it at all. What are you talking about?
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    wow what an *******, Bob Kraft wouldn't even dream of doing that
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    Pony I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you think the Jags have ZERO chance tonight
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    No. The Irsays are REPEAT shysters within 25 years of holding up Indiana taxpayers for the Hoosier Dome (remember that quaint name?).

    They moved out of Baltimore in Mayflower vans in the middle of the night, under cover and with no warning.

    Modell did it once to Cleveland. Georgia Rosenbloom did it once to LA. That bowtied creep did it once to St. Louis.

    But only Al Davis and the Irsays have moved and held up state taxpayers TWICE within 25 years.
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    it's misleading b/c Bob Kraft did something extremely similar to this. he signed a deal to move the team out of state for a sweet stadium deal.

    had environmental problems not come up - which were out of Kraft's control - the team would have moved out of state due to recieving public money.
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    Bob Kraft signed the deal to move the team out of state, then ****ed over CT by reversing the deal. what a saint.
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    Out of state but not out of the region. You're talking about Connecticut, its still in New England.
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    Hey, you know, more power to them. I despise all things Colts, but being able to work the system isn't a crime. The state/city could say no.
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    We got lucky, Shmessy. We were not saved by Saint Bob. The present situation did not happen by design as much as it happened by the owners following the money, and the path of the money got convoluted.

    The Krafts tried to beat MA for public funds, then they tried to bolt for CT, and now they charge fifty bucks to park, which amounts to (for 20k cars) a million dollars a game for parking.

    Sweet, but I fail to see how this is so much better than Irsay. I fail to see the big heart for the fans there. Big ticket prices, 50 bucks to park, blah blah blah, let's not annoint these guys to sainthood.
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    ^^^^^^

    exactly.

    both owners demanded public funds. Indiana caved, MA didn't. that's the major difference here.
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    He never intended to move; he wanted Mass to do some infrastructure improvements.

    Gillette was not publicly funded.

    Now stfu.
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    first off, the profanity filter seems to be down

    secondly, ban this turd once and for all...he's been here for months and every post is confrontational, argumentative and disruptive.
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