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  1. DarrylS

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    Before everyone gets their Depends in a bunch, it is a SF Gate newspaper with a widely distributed AP article.. good news that there may finally be an initial breakthrough in stopping this epidemic... if it is stopped, with the wrath of god rhetoric change???

    A world first: Vaccine helps prevent HIV infection

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    They will just change it to some other group...they need someone to scapegoat and threaten with eternal damnation to keep their power over the ignorant masses...

    Any breakthrough in the fight against AIDS is a good thing for the whole planet.

    If the vaccine works this will be the biggest milestone unseen in 54 years since Jonas Saulk's vaccine for polio was introduced.
     
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    I agree completely, in many countries it has ravaged the family and families...

    As far as scapegoats go, there will always be one..
     
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    Africa's countries especially the poor sub-Saharan countries are where it has had the biggest continued impact: 11 countries with at least over 10% of the population infected and 31 of the top 32 countries by percentage worldwide are affected.
     
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    There will be further pontification of pious platitudes on how this will encourage promiscuous behavior on the part of gay folks.. .. do not worry about aids, instead of the value it will have in preventing this disease and all that goes with it.
     
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    Some crazy groups somehow think that getting a vaccine for a mostly sexually transmitted disease, somehow makes it okay or encourages risky behavior. The same thing is happening with the HPV vaccine.
     
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    Is this the normal evolution of Vaccinations? I always assumed a vaccine wasn't a vaccine until it worked much more effectively than 3 in 10.
     
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    Bush Haters never seem to mention how much "Bad America" did for Africa in helping them with the AIDS problem, not even this Poster Boy Jerk we have for a President today, his speech to the UN yesterday was disgusting, it's not hard to see why "dictators love him".

    America during the Bush Years did more for "Africa AIDS" than any other country in the world.
     
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    Yes, but Bush didn't do Letterman!:nooo:
     
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    A vaccine for aids!!!! Now more people can watch porno and be promiscuous. Were back to the good ole days. :rocker:
     
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    You're correct. Most vaccines have demonstrated efficacy of over 90% protection. The HPV vaccine, another std vaccine, is proven to be 99.9% effective.

    This article is pre-mature, this HIV vaccine prevents only 30%, but it's still big news and encouraging since most people thought we'd never beat AIDS.
     
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    I don't mean to dampen the mood, but how would they know that they've prevented someone from being infected? It seems like something that would be hard to certify.

    According to their formula, or what I presume it to be, they simply calculated the difference in infected individuals, from the placebo, and vaccine. With an infection rate for unprotected, heterosexual intercourse being something like .001%, can you really state that the vaccine was the reason for the disparity? I hope they find both a vaccine, and cure, but these numbers don't impress me at all, since being infected, or preventing infection, involves so many variables.
     
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    The study design is standard among the medical industry and the data is statistically significant.

    You're probably not too familiar with clinical trials or vaccines or statistics in general, but it's standard to compare a group with vaccine against a group receiving placebo, and determining the preventative difference in terms of later incidence. You can figure out if it was statistically significant or not, out of the realm of random chance. The FDA considers these type of studies legit when deciding whether to approve Phase III trials or not.
     
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    I'm going to get slapped around for this one, I might even get 'called out'

    "The Lord Thy God Created The Anal Canal For The Emission Of Human Waste" did he not?

    Blood vessels in the Anal Canal are very tender, when ruptured by the erect penis any virus present in either the penis or the rectum will enter the blood stream of both the f-ckee and the f-ckerr, the result, AIDS.

    I spent two and a half years attending Harvard Medical School.
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    In what program, MD or MD/PHD, or what other program?

    Pardon me but I'm surprised to read this about you, since I always pictured you as a looney senile old crazy guy.
     
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    Weren't you a truck driver, who did not qualify for the Draft because you had crappy feet.. this is a new twist.
     
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    Harry is one amazing guy!!!!


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    You have a good memory, a horse stepped on my foot, I went to medical school before becoming a truck driver, I also was a Pimp in Central Sq Cambridge for awhile, I used to fill in for the regular guy.
     
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    Yeah, this will help a lot: now all the "jockeys" will be riding bare-back again.

    Look for a new virus to replace the one we just spent upteen BILLIONS producing so now people can go out and repeat the same conditions that caused the first outbreak.

    Delays the inevitable, nothing more.


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