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The Final 8 - impact on the Jets (a help for the Pats)

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    Jets face severe restrictions

    Just kindof another nice reminder of what the Jets "won" by making it into the Final 8 this year... and a nice reminder that given the Patriots existing injuries and needs for next season, what a good thing it was we didn't have a pyrric victory over the Ravens (with most knowing the teams was too banged up to win the Super Bowl this year).

    Can you imagine what it would be like if we were looking at next season, without Welker, with so many other areas of need and have such prohibitions on free agents that come with the Final 8 rule?

    I get the feeling that reality beginning to sink in down in NYC
    And while I'm not sure I want to give up all that a Julius Peppers trade would require in return, it's nice that the Patriots actually do have that option if they so desired.

    It'd be even more of a depressing offseason if we had to factor in the Final 8 rule into our free agent considerations.

    While there's sure to be some released free agents that the Jets can go for, overall this also means that are fewer teams able to bid for a free agent's services (assuming they've not lost one of theirs) which is a plus.

    I tend to think that BB would never intentionally lose a playoff game, but if you know the team is far from likely from winning the SB, why try to win a game that's only going to severely limit your ability to rebuild in 2010?
     
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    Re: The Final 8 - impact on the Jets

    Going to be a lot of teams cutting high priced salaries. These cut players are going to be the ones the Jets focus on.

    Not being able to sign Fa's as they have in the past will certainly hamper the Jets, but it is not a doomsday scenario, plenty of different ways to make an omelet.
     
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    And you can be damned sure that Rex knows every single one of them. ;)
     
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    As much as it pains me to say this, the reality is the Jets have fewer holes to fill, so this isn't as much of an issue as it might seem.
     
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    Right because 7-7 plus 2 wins against teams that didnt show up indicates the team is loaded and has no needs.
    Funny how when we were 12-4 and lost to Indy in Indy in the AFCCG after a furious comeback this board couldnt stop talking about all the holes, but when the Jets back in and get killed in the AFCCG they are the most complete team ever.
     
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    Re: The Final 8 - impact on the Jets

    Aren't cut players included in the limitation? They are UFAs too right?
     
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    Re: The Final 8 - impact on the Jets

    No the only restrictions are players that are unrestricted free agents. And any player with less then six years in the league can be restricted. I doubt that many desirable players are actually UFA's.
     
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    AndyJohnson -

    I should have said the Jets they have alot fewer restricted and unrestricted free agents hitting the market than we do. I am certainly not saying they have all the pieces in place, but they aren't losing as many as we are (potentially).
     
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    The Jet games week 16 and 17 are legitimate wins, Not there fault the Colts pulled Manning and crew.

    In the end the Jets showed that they were capable of playing championship football and have good potential to be a contender in 2010. The thought being that the Jets are young and that year 2 for the rookie coach and QB is bound to show improvement.
     
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    Re: The Final 8 - impact on the Jets (avhelp for the Pats)

    I will be surprised if 'lots of teams cut high-priced salaries.'
    Certainly not early in the offseason.
    There is very little incentive to do it.

    First, there is no cap. So for higher-revenue teams, there is no reason to cut relatively attractive players over salary. There will be no situations like five years ago, when there were lots of Lawyer Milloy's released for salary reasons. If you are a lower-revenue team, remember that all the team cares about is the salary if there is no cap. Not the total salary cap impact. All the rest of the money is sunk cost. So, just because a player looks like a high cost player, if part of that cost is the unamortized signing bonus, which most high-salary players carry, it's really immaterial.

    Second, there will be extremely limited free agency flexibility to replace players. The major impact of the uncapped year is a severe restriction of player movement. Take away the 215 or so fourth and fifth year players who are not gaining free agency. Then take away the increased number of tags teams have to retain their top players. Then add in the greater incentive to use that tag because a) salary cap doesn't count and b) better to pay the one-year fee during the period of uncertainty than to agree to a long-term deal without understanding the structure of the CBA. So anticipate more players franchised than in years past.

    Consider a player like Matt Light. He has a $4.5mm salary. Assume the Patriots think Sebastian Vollmer is the starting left tackle, and are OK with Kaczur at RT. It still makes sense for the Patriots to keep Light through training camp in case of injury - there is zero financial cost to keeping a player like this until the season starts -- because there is no cap. So players like Light, who you might consider high salary, are far less likely to be cut this year than in years past. They can be cut the day before games start to avoid guaranteeing the salary, but tough to build a team hoping for cuts in September.

    And because teams can franchise the few remaining good free agents, there is much less of a disadvantage to the Rule of Eight than normal years - unrestricted teams really have few players to choose from.
     
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