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    Hillary is becoming more and more of a slam dunk each day to win the nomination (not that it was ever much in doubt for the intelligent amongst us). As a Republican, I am very grateful for this because she is the one democrat we actually stand a chance against.

    About a year ago, I was quite adamant that B. Hussein Obama wouldn't run this go-round. It was clearly the stupid thing to do... why alienate your own party's "first family" in a hopeless crusade...?

    Obviously I overestimated B. Hussein Obama's intelligence. The man is either a complete moron, or the people advising him are complete morons (or, perhaps, all of the above). He didn't exactly commit complete political suicide but he certainly torpedoed any chance at higher office he ever wanted.
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    Sort of like Reagan did when he ran against Ford in '76? ;)
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    It's going to be Giuliani versus Hillary, and we'll all be dumber for it. Why? Cuz it will be the nastiest, mud slinging, dishonest, FOS, spin machining, BS election of all time.
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    I am not so sure Guiliani can win the nomination, but I do think he's the Republicans' strongest candidate in the general election. The dems are terrified of the notion that he could sneak in and steal NY right from under their noses. If a Republican takes NY, you can go to bed early on election night because it's all over but the concession screech.
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    Pant Suit Hillary is the best thing that ever happened to the Republicans, Hillary will win the nomination and that is great then all the republicans have to do is keep showing her picture over and over, show all the pictures of her screaming shreaking and waddling around grinning and clapping her hands trying to tell us all the wonderful things she is going to do for us, show pictures of Billy Blue Dress biting his lip standing beside her looking like a big f-cking goofy hillbilly, the pictures will do it, the Republicans will win the election by the biggest landslide this country has ever seen.

    The Clintons:
    Dear God, will these two annoying white trash ever "go away".
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    The main reasons Hillary has a good chance of winning is (1) The Republicans have alienated Independent voters, (2) Bill Clinton is still enormously popular and everyone knows with Hillary in the White House, Bill will be involved and help fix the economy, (3) the right-wing will almost certainly go overboard in attacking Hillary and help fortify her support. I think all the Republican candidates are weak, and will have trouble unifying their base. In fact, the Christian right is considering fielding a third-party candidate if Giuliani gets the nomination.
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    It's still a long, long way away, but as of right now, it's his to lose. I could live with him, but his skelatons are a little rough. At any rate, the reason why it's his, is because he doesn't need the early states to make noise. H'es got name recognition to survive Iowa and whatever. Rudy is going to clean up the following set of primary states like NY, NJ, Florida, etc, and will be the nominee. It's mathematic as of right now.

    I've been saying for a while now that who wins in 2008 will come down to match ups. Rudy has a real good shot versus Hillary because his negatives will be less exploitable because of Hillary's. Plus, Giuliani could legitimately steal some blue states. His negatives may, and I stress may, not matter as much as elections have become a vote against someone, and not so much a vote for. People may not like Rudy, but they might vote for him because of Hillary. Just my 2 cents at over a year away.
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    #12 Jersey

    Actually I disagree with you here. I think that she is the most formidable political enemy for repubs. She definitely knows how to play the Washington game better - IMO - then some of the other nominees like Obama. Plus... for whatever reason I can't get a grasp on, people are actually supporting her:confused: ?
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    That could all very well be true, but you forget how many people actually dislike the idea of 22 years of a Bush or Clinton, and how high Hillary's negatives are. There are a lot of people who simply do not like her.
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    She's not a perfect candidate by any means. In fact, I don't really like her. I think she can overcome her negatives, because really there's not a lot to be negative about. When I've asked people what they don't like about her, they typically talk about her insincerity (which is no big deal for a candidate) and her health care plan (which is much less of an issue, now that Americans are more open to the idea of national health care). Otherwise, she's obviously very smart, very well spoken, tough, tested, and mostly moderate, which is good for a presidential candidate. I think she has an excellent chance of winning, though, that said, there's still a long time before the general election, and if we attack Iran, all bets are off.
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    And then you will wake up from that (not so) wet dream of yours, to the new era of (another) Clinton presidency.

    This election is all hers to lose as she is the establishment candidate.

    I doubt, at this point, that the race will be even close.

    Rudy is a cheap Repub version of Bill Clinton with just as many skeletons if not more, and his candidacy is nothing but good news for the Dems.
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    Well so be it, we lived through Billy Blue Dress I suppose we can survive his Awful Wife.

    All politicians are the scum of the earth we just have to choose the best of the Bad Lot.

    It will be fun though watching her, Jay Leno loves it.
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    #12 Jersey

    I don't like several things with Hilary.
    Her fiscal policy is based on raising taxes and has said:
    Also, she has not signed on with American for Tax Reform - to pledge not to create new taxes and raise existing ones.

    While I like her energy policy mostly, I think we should drill in Alaska and get it over with. Yeah, energy efficient cars would be dandy - but as of right now I still need to get to work :\.

    She is also against Free-Market Capitalism; a system in which I believe works given a chance without government intervention (There are always exceptions of course, please don't hound me on this one.:) )

    I disagree with her health care system.

    On immigration Hilary has said:
    She has also stated that H.R.4437 is "a rebuke to what America stands for".
    Also:
    [Taken from www.clinton.senate.gov ]
    Further more: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.00009 is something I do not agree with.

    Shes got a pretty good idea about the threat that Iran could possibly face. She has gone on record stating that military action may be a solution. Also:
    She has also voted to label the Army of the Guardians a terrorist organization.

    Also, didn't she vote to give Bush the authority to go to war with Iraq? Shes flipped so many times on this...:\ Furthermore, she also voted for the patriot act... now going against it since its convenient politically.

    I support her stance on "Flag Burning" also.

    She wants to ban semi-automatic firearms. Bogas!

    Her stance on abortion is very much like mine in that I do not personally agree with it but I am not so sure it should be illegal.

    Heres a good one taken from HilaryClinton.com
    which means even bill gates' children will get 5000$?

    She supports the death penalty as do I.

    Also, according to Clinton's senate page, she still supports no child left behind.

    Shes against LGBT marriage - which is the most "liberal" of my views.
    She supports censorship for video games, movies, as well as internet - and being an avid gamer, I disagree.

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
    http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/news/statements/details.cfm?id=249895
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton#Economic_Policy
    http://www.youtube.com


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    All in all I agree she is very moderate - but she has flip flopped on a few key issues to me and I do not support the socialism of health care and her big government.
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    She's a fony, a fraud, and the ultimate finger in the wind politician. She's Mitt Romney in a skirt, ahem, a "Pant Suit". ;) She's the former repub turned Dem, the women's lib girl riding on the coat tails of her husband, the first lady who thought she was president. Cubs or Yankees baby? Um.....I'll have to alternate? She's a fraud fony. People don't like her because they can see right through her. She, like most politicians, will do ANYTHING to get elected. I can tolerate some pandering as it comes with the territory, but the complete frauds really iritate me. That's why Romney, Edwards, and Hillary would never, ever get my vote. If two of those three end up in the general election, I'll vote for someone else, or write in Harry Boy. :D
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    She presents herself as moderate because it tends to appeal to a larger voting block. If/when she gets in, you can kiss moderation goodbye. It'll be hello Amnesty, hello increased taxes, goodbye free market, and good night to the US of A. We'll be moving even closer toward socialism. Remember that she stated publically that she thought the government should take corporate profits for itself.

    “The oil companies reported the highest profits in the history of the world. I want to take those profits and I want to put them in an alternative energy fund.”

    She's a shrewd little charactor who feeds of the stupidity of the sheep in the voting public. She knows people don't understand that the profit of those companies were roughly 10% of total revenue. People are brain dead in this country, and I hate how people feast off that. Whether it's Countrywide selling M&M's loans they don't need, or politicians using dumbification tactics to destroy a country.
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    #12 Jersey

    Yeah, I agree. As I said, she flip flopped on to many important issues to me to many times :\

    SOCIALISM ... OH BABY MY HARD EARNED (Literally) MONEY SHALL GO TO... EVERYONE ELSE! Everyone CONFORM. GOGOGO
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    Hillary and Bill: We support the Teachers Unions 1000%. Teachers are the back-bone of our nation, and the public schools are the nests for our future leaders. We support public education and the teachers unions in everything they do. But they really do need to start sex ed in kindergarten; third grade is "too late".
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    Hillary: Bill, so did you see the prospectus for Friends School for Chelsea??
    Bill: Heh, yep, sure did. I wouldn't send our precious to any of these funky "public schools". Sheesh!!! They even smell funky, kind of like one of my old girlfrie....s.... Heh, heh, I mean, one of my old GOLFING shirts. Heh, heh. (Bites lip ... and tongue) :eek:

    Hillary: Yeah, you're right. Those DC public schools are such sh!t holes, I wouldn't send a Republican kid there. Or, ... maybe I would. :D But, hey Bill?

    Bill: Yeah, Hill?
    Hillary: Just tell your coke-head brother, Roger, to stay the hell away from those schools with his dealer friends. He gets caught there again, and next time we send him on a LONG-G-G trip!! Get it!!??
    Bill: Yes, Hillary.



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    #12 Jersey


    How come you type "//" at the end of every post?



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    Haven't figured out how to make a sig yet.


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    #15 Jersey

    Childrens do learn
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-3FSUafZqk
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