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  1. QuiGon

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    Whatever happened to the woman who changed her name to Hillary "Rodham" Clinton the day after her husband won election in 1992..? Where's our uppity feminist looking to socialize our health care system..?

    Oh yeah... she, like all liberals, knows she can't get elected for what she really is. She has to pretend to be something she's not to pull the wool over the voters' eyes.

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...n_shows_femininity_to_court_key_constituency/

    MANCHESTER, N.H. - Everywhere she goes, Hillary Clinton asks voters to help her make history as the first woman president.

    Yet Clinton is increasingly portraying herself more as motherly and traditional than as trailblazing and feminist, sometimes playing up the differences between men and women.

    And at the AFL-CIO Democratic forum in Chicago in August, the most memorable moment was Clinton's buoyant declaration to the union faithful that if they wanted a winner, "I'm your girl."
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    No different that the Connecticut effete Bush who went to Phillips Academy in Andover pretending to be a good old boy from Texas. His friend, the former President of Mexico called him a "windshield cowboy" who is "afraid of horses":

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/21/wbush121.xml

    So, what you just said about liberals, I think applies to most candidates. The smart ones position themselves to appeal to at least 51% of the voters.
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    There's a surprise... a liberal can't defend against what I have said, so they simply respond with an attack on Bush, Rush, Fox News, etc...

    Never seen that tactic before :rolleyes:
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    If you read more carefully, you would see that I'm agreeing with what you said, but adding that it applies not only to liberals, but to conservatives as well. I do not think your point needed to be partisan.
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    Hillary is so fony, and so finger in the wind, it's pathetic. That woman would sell her children if it meant getting elected.
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    Whatever you say, old buddy..!! All I know is I laughed myself silly when you, of all people, called someone else "effete". So it was well worth the time and energy... :rofl:
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    To paraphrase you --

    There's a surprise... QuiGon can't defend against what I have said, so he simply responds by calling me names.

    Never seen that tactic before :rolleyes:
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    I'm with Patters; most policians try to appeal to as many people as possible. It's something prevalent in both parties. I think Hilary is worse than most, but Romney's doing it a lot too.
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    Pandering is to be expected. You, as in a candidate, have to try to appeal to a broad range of voters. In doing so, you will pander a bit. I can handle that, but what I can't handle, is being a FRAUD! Like being for the war before being against it, or being pro-choice but all of a sudden being pro-life, etc.. Some pandering is reality, changing your stripes is crossing the line. Romney is a fraud, and Hillary is a finger in the wind fony. I'd much prefer someone who panders a little, but stands up and says this is what I am. At least that way I know where someone stands, and can decide whether I like them or not. I'm more apt to vote for someone I don't agree with on some issues, because I think they are firm in their beliefs. The people who talk out of both sides of their mouth are the ones I fear the most.
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    I got this email the other day. I knew what the answers were after the first question.


    A little history lesson. If you don't know the answer make your best guess.
    Answer all the questions before looking at the answers.

    Who said it?

    1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

    A. Karl Marx
    B. Adolph Hitler
    C. Joseph Stalin
    D. None of the above

    2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the
    few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."


    A. Lenin
    B. Mussolini
    C. Idi Amin
    D. None of the Above

    3) "(We) ...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something
    has to be taken away from some people."


    A. Nikita Khrushev
    B. Josef Goebbels
    C. Boris Yeltsin
    D. None of the above

    4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."

    A. Mao Tse Dung
    B. Hugo Chavez
    C. Kim Jong Il
    D. None of the above

    5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

    A. Karl Marx
    B. Lenin
    C. Molotov
    D. None of the above

    6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most
    profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."


    A. Pinochet
    B. Milosevic
    C. Saddam Hussein
    D. None of the above


    Scroll down for answers

















    Answers

    (1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
    (2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
    (3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
    (4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
    (5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
    (6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

    Be afraid, Be very afraid!!


    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo
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    Um, where did I call you a name in that post..? I laughed at the name you called Bush, and the irony contained therein, but I didn't call you anything at all. I resent your statement, although I am rather used to your outright lies by now.
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    The email you received is a typical right-wing distortion done by taking her comments completely out of context. Here's the context:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp

    Don't trust the right wing. There are a great many documented liars and distorters among them.
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    His comments are a heck of a lot more in context than all the lies you gladly spread about Rush Limbaugh, completely distorting his "phony soldiers" comment.

    Of course, you're too partisan to admit that which everyone knows.
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    To paraphrase you --

    There's a surprise... a conservative can't defend against what I have said, so they simply respond by bringing up something unrelated.

    Never seen that tactic before :rolleyes:

    As far as your other comment, it sounded like you were calling me effete.
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    Um, it says, and for some reason you can't copy and paste, that the quote is accurate. That the context is misleading. Really? I don't really see how it is? She said to a crowd that she was going to repeal the tax cuts in order to give that money for the common good. So what's misleading about that?
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    Yeah, she said to a very wealthy group that she's going to repeal their tax cuts. The quote, isolated, makes it sound like she's about to wage a revolution, when all she's talking about is standard Democratic tax policy, that the wealthy should pay more in taxes.

    Isolated, We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" could be read as a collectivist statement or even worse if you don't know that she's referring only to tax breaks that disproportionately benefited the rich.
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    It's not isolated when she's made the same remarks about corporate profits. This is what she believes in. She's a socialist, and borderline communist. She clearly believes in that form of government. From taxing about taxing for the "common good", or confiscating corporate profits, to government run health care. She's truly scary.
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    Anyone who defends Rush, his half truths and lies is very over the edge.. suggest you get some balance into your political diet, if not you will get all backed up. Rush changed his whole statement on the "phony soldiers" too lazy to look for it right now, but it is out there.
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    I get plenty of balance - and I guarantee it's far more than you do.
    Well, he explained what he meant to completely refute the lying liberals but he never changed his statement from the moment he said it to the present day. So we'll just chalk that up as another liberal lie... oh, but it's "out there".... you're just "too lazy to look it up"... :rofl: But it's there, I tell ya..!! It is it is..!!
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    Can we put this to a vote?
    Quigon is such a moron I vote to boot him off the political forum, frankly he does a lot more damage than he does good, how can you expect non-extremists and moderates to post here when a wacko like this guy is allowed to roam free?

    Did anyone else notice how much more civil and interesting the board was when Quigon was banned?

    This isn't about ideologies, I find RW's posts interesting, but crazy people like Quigon bring nothing to the table.
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    Besides the FACT that he was referring to soldiers who are NOT REAL SOLDIERS. I was listening the day he said that. The caller was calling about a "soldier" protesting the war in Iraq. It turned out that it was not a soldier, and they guy admitted in federal court he was a fake, a false, a PHONY.

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    Actually, he brings a lot to the table. Not only are is it his RIGHT to think they way he does, it's his RIGHT to express it. Maybe this is a privately owned forum, but its a place for ALL political people to come and voice their opinions. Sure he goes and says the occasional rude remark, but look at how EVERY single one of the liberals attacks him. For instance, you called him a moron, crazy, uncivil, damaging, and wacko all in the same post.
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    Ah yes... typical liberal... wants to "vote" to ban someone... unfortunately for me, you have the utmost in sympathetic moderators who has gladly censored and banned me in the past for my viewpoints... so I had best be careful...
    Does anyone else notice how the moonbats in here are constantly talking about how uncivil I am, whilst lacing their posts with comments like "Quigon is such a moron" etc...

    See, when I do it I am being uncivil and should be banned... but when they do it... well, that's different..!! It's OK for them to do it..!!
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    actually, it's not your viewpoints... it's just that you're a jackasz who routinely calls other posters "retards" and suggests their mothers are whores...

    like i said... you earned it...
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    That's censorship mav. I'm not a big fan of his style, but if we go ahead and just ban everyone we don't like, then we'll end up with two moderators who can't ban each other. If someone iritates you, just ignore them, or play along and have a laugh. It's the internet facrisesakes. I'm an a-hole sometimes too, but that's what talking politics on the net is sometimes. I have worse discussions with friends and family sometimes. In the end, we all sing kumbaya. :D
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    He gets as much back as he gives, but that comes with the territory of having a less than friendly, attacking style. The trick is to just ignore people that annoy you. I know that's hard for some people, but this is the internet, and we're discussing politics. When the 12 year old calls me a racist, and says I'm dumb, I don't want him banned. I just ignore him, and occassionaly poke some fun.

    I will say this, posts like the one in the most recently closed thread, are over the top, and unacceptable. Posts like that can't be tolerated, and that is something I would ban people over.

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