Are we finally at the bottom? GDP troughs. Check? We may have a bit further to go. Fed lowers rates? Check. They can't go any lower. Business growth weak. Check Leading indicators decline - unemployment, consumer confidence, housing starts, durable goods orders. Check. Check. Check. Check. Can it get worse. Probably but I just don't think the business cycle is going to stop working this time. We are hopefully going to start pulling outof this soon. Are there any other optomists out there?