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    Why in the world was Michael Vick allowed back into the NFL?

    ‘The Lost Dogs’ picks up the story of animals saved from Michael Vick’s fighting ring - The Boston Globe

    Vick’s conviction, Gorant writes, marked “the first time that dogs in a fight bust were looked at not as weapons, as the equivalent of a gun in a shooting, but as victims.’’ Rescued from the quarterback’s rural Virginia compound (coincidentally, not far from the world headquarters of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals), some of the dogs were initially aggressive. Many others were scarred psychologically as well as physically, terrified of all sound and motion or resigned to a near-catatonic state.

    They’d been through hell. Dogs that would not fight (or proved to be inept in doing so) for Vick and his friends at Bad Newz Kennels were often put to death without mercy. The author reports one incident in which a dog was doused with water, then electrocuted. In another, Vick and an accomplice swung a dog by its front and back limbs “like a jump rope,’’ slamming it against the ground until it expired.
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    I never thought I would say this but.... I agree with you Patters.

    What really makes me sick is the fact that his jersey is now a top
    seller again.

    News Headlines

    Who the he11 would buy a Vick Jersey ?

    I hope he ends up with a Joe Theismann injury.
    If he does, you can bet that Cup of Joe and his dog Hershey "Chocolate lab" will be cheering his pain.
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    I can't believe this monster is allowed to play football.:mad:
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    I thought once someone paid their dues for their crimes, they're supposed to be treated no differently than any other member of society. Why is Vick any different?
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    Convicted Felons don't qualify for many types of jobs. The level of cruelity hear is hard to comprehend. A lot of people in some communities that I have talked to don't think it is a big deal because it was "just a dog" hard to understand.
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    There are a lot of sex offenders that beg to differ.
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    My feeling is that if a person is capable of doing that to an animal, they're capable of doing it to a human being.
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    Because he makes people lots and lots of money.
    Unfortunately that's all that matters :(
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    Best Friends in Utah, a huge no kill shelter.. has rehabbed quite a few of his dogs...
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    When everyone was up in arms back when this first happened, members were posting all kind of remarks, quite a few "downplaying" Vick's abilities. A number said he would never play in the NFL again, basically, because he sucked.
    I always believed Vick had a great physical gift. It was mentioned a number of times (prior to the dog thing) that he was the fastest player in the game.
    My take, it is what it is. He served more time then players who took a human life (Donte, isn't even on my short list). If your talented, your going to play. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs, I just put it in perspective.
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    First of all, Stallworth was a case of manslaughter. It was not an intentional murder, though I don't condone driving under the influence.
    What Vick did was intentionally and brutally murder dogs.
    But hey, it's just a dog, right.
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    Vick is an exciting QB and he can bust any play into a 70 yard run. His arm is a cannon and he can throw it 70 yards downfield with ease.

    However, he makes extremely poor decisions (both on and off the field) and his accuracy is atrocious. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at 5 yards. His style is such that it really is not conducive to a long, grueling football season. And once you have a defense committed to containing him in the pocket, he just doesn't have the ability to consistently hit open receivers.

    But he's won a few games for an otherwise mediocre Eagles team so he's the media darling of the day.
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    I guess you didn't see where I mentioned Donte wasn't on my short list? There are a number of players who don't get Vick's criticism who have done far worse. Like I stated, I put it in perspective.
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    Like who? Ray Lewis? Of course he was never convicted. Right.
    Seriously. I can't think of any case. Please, give some examples.
    What NFL player did something worse than use an animal as a jump rope until it was dead and is still playing Football in the NFL?
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    MEH ... neither does our President Barry Soetero.

    So Barry and Vick have something in common now.
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    I have lots of Dominican friends who still are doing the bird fights ...

    The ones where they attach razor blades to their legs.

    dog fighting and bird fighting are as strong as ever ...

    Not condoning it ... just saying ... makes people feel better to persecute Vick but nothing really has been accomplished at all.

    Used to watch worse than this on Sunday afternoons back in the day.
    That nature show that my memory cannot remember the name right now.
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    The kinds of things Vick did are the kinds of things that serial killers do. It's one thing to put dogs down or even to use them in fights (which is, for some, culturally acceptable), but quite another to kill them by torturing them.
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    You and i would call it torture ... but we don't have a brain like Vick.

    These people see that behavior as normal.

    I could never on my worst day kill women and children with a bomb ... others see that as normal.

    It's a crucial part in understanding things like this, criminals and the like ... it's a different kind of brain.

    But he paid his debt to society ... i have no problem with him carrying on his life.
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    Now you're indulging in moral relativism. You do realize that with that, you could absolve any atrocity, couldn't you.
    btw- Is he on your Fantasy Football team? ;)
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    Are they NFL players?

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