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  1. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

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    It's funny how Christ being removed from CHRISTmas is considered by some as not being an attack of sorts. I like how the lady put it when using Lincoln's birthday as an example. Where I come from, 2 + 2 tends to equal 4.



    'Nativity' Booted From Ill. Holiday Fair


    Nov 27, 11:24 PM (ET)

    By DON BABWIN

    (AP) A nativity scene set up by a private group as part of a Christmas festival is seen Monday, Nov. 27,...

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    CHICAGO (AP) - A public Christmas festival is no place for the Christmas story, the city says. Officials have asked organizers of a downtown Christmas festival, the German Christkindlmarket, to reconsider using a movie studio as a sponsor because it is worried ads for its film "The Nativity Story" might offend non-Christians.

    New Line Cinema, which said it was dropped, had planned to play a loop of the new film on televisions at the event. The decision had both the studio and a prominent Christian group shaking their heads.

    "The last time I checked, the first six letters of Christmas still spell out Christ," said Paul Braoudakis, spokesman for the Barrington, Ill.-based Willow Creek Association, a group of more than 11,000 churches of various denominations. "It's tantamount to celebrating Lincoln's birthday without talking about Abraham Lincoln."


    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061128/D8LLRK9O0.html
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    Read the whole article, and it's easier to see where the city is coming from. Obviously, it's a sort of multi-faith event, and they wanted to discourage one religion from upstaging another so they made a suggestion. You are objecting to a suggestion that the German church group apparently found reasonable.

    "'The city does not want to appear to endorse one religion over another,' said Cindy Gatziolis, a spokeswoman for the Mayor's Office of Special Events. She acknowledged there is a nativity scene, but also said there will be representations of other faiths, including a Jewish menorah, all put up by private groups. She stressed that the city did not order organizers to drop the studio as a sponsor.

    "'Our guidance was that this very prominently placed advertisement would not only be insensitive to the many people of different faiths who come to enjoy the market for its food and unique gifts, but also it would be contrary to acceptable advertising standards suggested to the many festivals holding events on Daley Plaza,' Jim Law, executive director of the office, said in a statement."
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    Merry Christmas you dirty socialist communist progressive rotten bastards.
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    This is just another example as to why Republicans lost big a few weeks ago. They are more concerned with the "War on Christmas" than the War in Iraq.
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    And Dims are more concerned with waging war against Christmas than against terrorists.
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    That might be the dumbest thing ever written in here.

    Incase you missed it, this was the headline to the thread:

    Re: The Attack on Christmas Continues


    Repubs lost because they were incompitent. Last I checked CHRISTmas wasn't in any of the exit polls.
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    Republicans were blown out because they pandered to their base while alienating the moderate majority. They spent too much time focusing on how to retain their power and appease people who actually believe their is such a thing as a "War on Christmas." Fixing the nation's real problems could've done the trick, but thankfully they ****ed up.
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    Do you and I live in the same country? Oh wait, you must be a bleeding heart party stooge. I know what party you wear the blinders for, not that it matters when we're talking to sheeple. Anyhow....

    The repubs lost because they alienated their base. Remember, the GOP used to be about fiscal sanity & small government. Instead, they moved to the extreme right, thus expanding the reach of the police state, and spending taxpayer money is ways no liberal could dream. Furthermore, they totally mismanaged post war Iraq, and pissed on their base by having multiple members of their party epunged over corruption & ethics. That's not pandering to their base, that's pissing on them. Of course, someone as blinded as you, probably thinks that GW is a traditional republican. Sure, and John Kerry is a traditional Democrat.

    Anyhow, the war on christmas is obvious to those of us who aren't wearing blinders.
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    So how bloody have the "War on Christmas'" battlefields been? How many casualties have you seen? Maybe when my town hold its first ever Christmas parade this year a Jew is going to gun down Santa. :rolleyes:

    I hope your party and your cable news station continues to promote this war as it only shows to the public how delusional certain ideologies can be.
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    #37 Jersey


    Don't stick up for jews now, who wants it? Not this one, please put the hood back on, you jew-hating prick. You nothing more than some young punk bigot who likes to post crap about how jews are evil. Go eff yourself, racist bastard! You and your ******* party!
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    Jew hater, gay basher, you guys really have more in common than you think.
  12. Real World

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    baaaa....more sheeple banter.

    First of all, I'm no party stooge. I'd never be dumb enough to sell my soul to some ridiculous group that has none of my interests in mind as they only serve to satisfy their own. It's too bad that you, and so many others in here, are gulible enough to forget your principles in favor of your party.

    If your criticism is of the use of the word "War", then how about we use attack instead. I'm sure you get your panties in a bunch when #93 uses the same term to describe his "war" on the field right? Anyhow, the attack on CHRISTmas is really an extension of the broader attempt to destroy christianity. The thing is, I don't think your disdain lies with our choice of words, as much as it does with our defense of CHRISTmas.
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    Damn, thats great, Jusus jumping Christ let it out, now your talking, you may get the thread closed because some of the knee jerkers will be offended but by the holy sh!t almighty that felt good didn't it, I even like it when the lefty saps give it to me, don't let nobody sh!t on you.
    GOD IS GREAT
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    Pujo, what's funny is that you are right. The only difference in most of these cases are the (R) or (D) next to a posters names. Sure, the details for which they argue might be different, but the principle is very much the same. I try to stick to principles when making an arguement, or supporting a cause. Too many in here stick the letter involved. (D) or (R).
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    Like you said above, you and I must live in different countries. There is no one attacking Christmas except for maybe in Cambridge. Stop acting like it's a huge national crisis when clearly it isn't. Hell, even *gasp* atheists celebrate Christmas with their families.
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    The issue is that when public money is spent, somebody is going to be upset by how its spent. Jews don't want their money spent promoting Christmas, Christians don't want their money spent promoting homosexuality, and homosexuals don't want their money spent on a parade that excludes them. The answer is to let the government stick to what it was meant to do: provide core services like police, roads, and military, and stay out of everything else. Let the Christians, gays, Jews, and Irish have their own parades and let them hate each other for it. The purpose of government isn't to please everyone, that's an impossible task.
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    National crisis? Who said it was a national crisis? Is this not a political forum? Do we not discuss everything from the likes of Iraq, which would certainly qualify to some as nationaly critical, to, hmmmm....lets see what today's topic of discussion are:

    Quiestest Hurricane Season in Decade

    Kerry Finishes Dead Last In Likeability Poll

    Pam Anderson, Kid Rock Divorcing...

    Michael Irvin's racist rant


    or my personal favorite from Harry on 11/20

    Orgasms

    So I guess, according to you, we can only discuss topics that are critical nationally. Afterall, you, I mean, the party that speaks for you, knows best.

    Tell me then, what is CHRISTmas?
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    "Mommy, here comes a guy with a white thing on his head and he has a beard"
    "Quick, pull the shades down, don't let him see the tree"
    :bricks:

    "Mohammad"
    "What"
    "Do you hear noise on roof"
    "Yes"
    "What is noise"
    "Noise is fat white honkie bastard Santa Claus"
    "What we do Mohammad"
    "Go sleep, I block chimney"
    "God Is Great"
    :bricks:
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    Nobody is proclaiming a "War on Orgasms" or a "Michael Irvin's War on Whites." Those issues are all insignificant compared to the War in Iraq for example. They can still be discussed but they are rightfully titled as they are, while this thread is not, as there is no such thing as a "War on Christmas." Just because some city council foolishly decides to remove a nativity scene doesn't mean that Christmas is under attack. 95% of Americans will go on to have a wonderful Christmas like always.

    Do I really need to explain Christmas to a Christian?

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