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    Interesting that Larry English posted a "poor" 10 yard split running a 1.64.
     
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    And, interestingly enough, the top 3 DE/OLBs were:

    (1) Clay Matthews 1.49 :eek:
    (2) Aaron Maybin 1.55
    (3) Connor Barwin 1.57 :D
     
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    Good stuff as usual from NFP, but I wish he'd offered some perspective on the speed/weight interaction. How does Matthews' 240 lbs coming at you at 1.49 compare to Brown & Barwin's 256 at 1.58?
     
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    Matthews supposedly lost 5 lbs. for the combine in order to improve his quickness.

    I posted on these times a few weeks ago on CBS/NFLdraftscout published the expanded combine times:

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...089-unique-top-700-list-updated-3-3-09-a.html

    What I posted at that time was:

    "Box, I agree with you about some of the 10 yd split numbers. I was using the 3-cone as one example, but there are clearly others.

    It's interesting that if you look at most of the top pass-rushing DEs and the top LBs that their 10 yard splits are almost identical even though their 40 times vary tremendously: 1.56 (Michael Johnson), 1.57 (Aaron Maybin), 1.58 (Brian Orapko), 1.58 (Connor Barwin), 1.58 (Clint Sintim), 1.58 (Brian Cushing), 1.59 (James Laurinaitis), 1.59 (Everett Brown). It's remarkable to see 8 top prospects separated by only 3/100 of a second. Clay Matthews is the clearest outlier at 1.49, and Aaron Curry ran a 1.53. There are some outliers on the slow end like Rey Maualuga at 1.62, Larry English at 1.64 and Robert Ayers at 1.66, who may have a little less burst.

    More interesting to me than their 40 times. Again, not a substitute for watching game film and other analysis, but an interesting exercise nonetheless."

    My suggestion at the time was that English and Ayers 10-yard times made them more suitable to SILB than to 3-4 pass-rushing OLBs, where the burst might be more critical in getting around the edge.
     
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    Lamarr Woodley at his Pro Day: 1.65


    English will be fine as a rush OLB, I don't see him moving inside as well.
     
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    are those times the avg of their 2 runs? if its not..it could be that mathews just has a great start. compared to woodley...all the mentioned seem more then adequate...quickness -wise .

    10 yrd split definately more imp then 40...laurentis and english who was slow in 40...seems ok after seeing this
     
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    reading the article makes me wonder why aaron maybin dropped so low in some of the draft rankings. maybe we can get him at 47
     
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    Because he can't do anything but rush the passer. He left school at least a year too early, you draft him knowing he can rush the passer and is fluid in his linebacker drills, then you hope he has the maturity and work ethic to develop the rest of his game.
     
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    For those debating Barwin, English, Matthews and Sintim

    Great work here by Wes Bunting @ NFP, good read:
    The National Football Post | Behind The Times: The 10 Yard Split

     
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    Re: For those debating Barwin, English, Matthews and Sintim

    Ahhhh....a little too late to the dance. Forgive me for missing that.
     
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    Re: For those debating Barwin, English, Matthews and Sintim

    you should be ashamed of yourself. how dare you
     
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