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    Thanks to Oakland, Patriots Picking #17
    By: Ian Logue

    Following yesterday's final regular season game action, the 2011 NFL draft order for draft picks 1-20 in the first round has been finalized. ...

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    Let's double down and make it their first-rounder in 2012, because if Davis fires Cable they will almost certainly be back towards the top of the draft. ;)
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    How many times can the Chiefs screw the Pats? WTF did we get for Cassell and Vrable and Pioli?!! 1 pick, 2 picks, 0 picks??!!

    Now they lay down and lose to the flippin Raiders and screw us out of a higher draft pick. I am VERY upset about this.
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    boo to all the afc west teams for going 0-6 with the raiders, especially the "uber talented" chargers. i've never seen a more overrated team in my life.


    that division's a joke.
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    Unreal. I cannot believe they went 0-6 in that division and screwed us so bad. Missed out on Seymours services for a 17th?. I'll take it thanks. We'll still get a good player out of the deal. Trade for Moss for a 4th and get a 3rd. Draft Seymour for a 6th and get a 17th. Not too bad. Could of been better but again I'll take it.

    BTW how do you think the Raiders owner will reward the poor coach in Oakland taking that band of rag tag players to atleast respectability? Yep, fired over a 2.5 million bonus he doesn't want to pay. Yet he will pay out the ying yang for SB MVP Larry Brown and Desmond Howard. Horribly run franchise.
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    I was initially VERY interested in the outcome of the Raiders' season because of the pick, but I've come to realize that the Patriots will target the player that they want, pay the price to get him, and likely get more ammo for future considerations. In the end, they'll come out ahead....possibly WAY ahead. So, BFD about the Oakland win. Who cares?
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    Giving BB #17, #32 (if we win the SB) and #33 is like giving the keys to the vault to a bank robber!

    The next decade might be better than the last! :eek:
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    Not to mention all the $$ Davis threw at JaMarcus Russell when basically everyone told him it wouldn't work.

    And people call out the Patriots for not spending money...
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    I think you're a little behind the times on the sig and avatar! :)
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    Once intriguing thing about the #33 pick is the time between the end of the first round and the start of the second round in this new three day format... they'll have almost a whole day to make a selection or trade the pick.
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    I'd be very surprised if the #33 pick isn't traded.
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    I wonder what makes you so sure about that TE thing :).

    After all Crumpler is another year older and we didnt draft one in the first round since 2004.
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    I'd be shocked if we use that pick. There's a whole day for at least 2 teams to realize that a player is on the board that they cant live without and will be willing to outbid others to make the Pats a sweet deal.
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    3 picks in the first 33...wow...what a great flexibility we will have

    Go Pats !
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    my thoughts exactly.. If we're going to acquire a 2012 pick, this seems to be the one that will provide it to us
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    I read a lot of speculation that 33 will be traded. I'm wondering what folks see the Pats getting in return, and who the candidates might be to make such a trade. To me you need a team with a lower or no second round pick this year, that would be willing to give up a first for 2012; and for it to be worthwhile to the Pats, it would have to be a team likely to be at least top 20 pick-wise looking ahead. Or maybe a lower first and a third for '12?

    So I guess the bottom line questions are: What's the market for this pick? And what's its value in a trade?
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    i think management likes having three picks in the first two round at least, i think we aim for that again next year

    someone might be desperate enough to trade us their 1 next year for the 33 this year but its hard to say who with so many teams in rebuilding phase, maybe the eagles as they will probably net some picks for kolb and need o line help and the value is probably around 33.

    I could see us giving away our second first round to a team we gamble will fail next year, Seahawks would be nice.
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    Considering it is pick #33, the value may be more than ONLY a 1st rounder next year. I'm thinking

    1) a 1st rounder in 2012
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    2a) a 4th rounder this year, or
    2b) a 3rd rounder next year, or
    2c) an under-30-year-old starter / rotation player with 3-4 experience, at OLB or D-line

    Another factor in our favor, value-wise, is a larger-than-normal coaching turnover. There will be more teams putting in new systems and looking for their guys to put in place from day one.
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    It's early but our season won't end in Feb :) I'll give you two names right off the top of my head.. Jerry Jones/Dallas and Jerry Angelo's/Bears.. We've had history with both teams and both are primed to look to add additional OL help.. A Tackle who slipped or highly rated guard might make them jump..
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    It could be interesting to see if a team overpays for 32 :), knowing there will be a lot of overnight interest in 33. Head of the competition. Nice position for Pats to be in.
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    Too little. Think a #1 in 2012 AND a #2 in 2011. If a QB like Mallet or Locker for example slips to the 2nd round, a QB needy team would give that especially if there is competition for the pick. Perhaps the Pats throw in 4th or 5th rounder, but it would take something like that.

    #33 is only one pick from a #1 and you need to wait one year to use it, and could potentially not be much lower than #33 if the acquiring team has a good year.
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    With the lockout, junior will probably stay at college, and overall class value will be lower. At least 2 of our 4 first picks should be traded away for next years picks.
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    supposedly miami doesnt have a second round pick

    nor do they have a viable qb and per pft the asking price for orton is a second round pick

    if sparano stays he needs to win now and so does ireland, maybe we trade our 33 to them for their first the year after so they can pursue orton?
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    Really, you've got to get a life. It's disappointing, but let's get real...
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    If we do, put BB in a retirement home. WAY too little value.
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    No, I think it'll be #32 that's traded for a 2012 1st + other considerations, and we'll either pick at 33 or do a small trade down to 35 or 36.
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    the bengals are supposedly keeping lewis, this means ochocinco is probably gone along with owens

    wide receiver is set to be deep this year so a good player like floyd could be available early on in the second, another potential trading partner with a head coach who needs a good year.
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    Are you serious? Time for the league to contract then and kick these losers OUT. Nothing against Lewis, but come on, he has done little in all the years he's been there. Sure they made the playoffs twice, and were one and done both times. What an embarrassment. Bengals fans deserve pity. :ugh:
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    i was surprised but alot of their fans seem to put their malaise on brown, general feeling that lewis wont struggle to find work/ bengals would struggle to attract new coach.
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    Yeah I know. As long as Mike Brown is running the show I suppose it doesn't matter who the coach is.

    If all you care about is making money, pro sports (at least at the major league level) is the wrong business for you. Paul Brown must be spinning in his grave watching his son run everything into the ground.
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