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    I think to be overly confident against a team that's 20-0 in the second half of the season dating back to 2010 would be hubris. I certainly can't predict an easy victory.
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    Don't worry, the Niner fans are awful enough for both teams.
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    Well no matter what side you are on, or who you believe is better, there's no question we are very likely talking about the 2 best teams in the NFL at the moment(no offense Falcon fans). Any time you have a match up like this, it's too close to call. They seem like a smart bunch. Only the Jets fans think they can beat us every single time we face them.
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    For every injury question on the Pats offense, there's one on the Texans defense. There are good players on both sides that may or may not play.
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    Records mean nothing in a big matchup, and maybe they're just hip to that. Good for them. One of these days some of us will learn that lesson too.
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    Neither can anybody here unless they are pretending. Either team can walk away the winner. Both teams should be confident, and it should be a rock fight to the bitter end.
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    After listening to Kraft explain how 50% OF ALL NFL games are decided by 7 points or less and that 25% OF ALL NFL Games are decided by 3 points or less, I don't think I'll be taking any victories for granted.

    From now on I think I'll just stick to hoping.

    Unless it's the Sanchez lead Jets.:)
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    They seem pretty superstitious down there about this one.

    This comes down to a few key matchups and how much injuries have thinned the depth in key areas - particularly the Patriots' receiving corps and offensive line, and the Texans' linebackers and secondary.

    The Texans' offense has to keep up in this one, because that defense is not going to stop the Patriots from scoring points. It will be interesting to see if the Pats' D is any good, or just a mirage since the competition has been mediocre for the last several weeks.

    It would be nice to see the Patriots' OL back to near full strength, but who knows? The signing of two OL to the Practice Squad is a bad omen.

    The weather is not cooperating. This one was supposed to be a nasty weather game to really test the Texans, but it looks like it will be warm and wet.
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    The Texans have been bad for most of their history, so a lot of fans carry those scars. We are just learning to win and deal with success. They see failure around every corner.

    This will be a game, could go either way, anyway presuming a win is overly optimistic and if either team is thinking that they have already lost.
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    Iam not that confident about the pats chances either. Wade phillips when with the chargers has given brady a lot of trouble. Couple that with banged up oline/WR hurt and no gronk, this could be a tough day. Our D did play well vs miami but the zone running scheme of shanahan and co has always bothered BB's defense along with the naked boot leg throws. We need some turnovers to take control early I feel.
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    Iam not that confident about the pats chances either. Wade phillips when with the chargers has given brady a lot of trouble. Couple that with banged up oline/WR hurt and no gronk, this could be a tough day. Our D did play well vs miami but the zone running scheme of shanahan and co has always bothered BB's defense along with the naked boot leg throws. We need some turnovers to take control early I feel.
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    it'll be a tough game

    i would have called it for NE more easily w/o all our injuries (especially so on offense), but seeing how much trouble we had moving the ball last week with limited receiving options, this will be interesting
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    From the tone of that thread, the Texans fans are taking the DOOMED approach. That thread is simply about superstition, half of them don't really believe what they are writing.
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    Not sure why they wouldn't be confident...

    1. They're 11-1.

    2. Pats are pretty banged up at the following positions: WR, TE, OL.

    It's in Foxborough in December, so it's going to be a tough game for them to win. But the Texans can compete.
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    First off I have to give credit to Texans fans. I've yet to meet one that is annoying (granted there aren't alot of them). As far as confidence level, both sides have good reason to be worried. This is the marquis matchup of the 2012 season and that can only happen when two great teams are playing. Each side has their issues right now, their secondary is depleted especially at the corner position. We may not have our top weapon (Gronk) or our top lineman (Mankins) and while Hernandez looked pretty good last week we're still not sure if he's full speed off the high ankle sprain. Chandler Jones status is up in the air though I'm leaning towards him being fully effective this week. So it's alot for both teams to overcome.
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    I believe just about everyone of us has considered this game along with the 49ers tilt a measurement of the Pats championship mettle. A win goes a long way to saying we can think about a deep playoff run. A loss doesn't necessarily mean the opposite, unless it's in a manner that shows the team isn't ready to compete at an elite level for 2012.

    I would say there's a lot of pre-2004 Red Sox pessimism in the fan base of the Texans. Looks to me there's healthy respect on both sides of the stadium. Both fan bases are looking at this game as a measuring stick. Should be a great game, with late season/playoff intensity. I would wager record ratings for the broadcast.
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    Could just be the old reverse jinx. I invented that, BTW.
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    The key will be to shut down Arian Foster, early. If the Texans can get the run game going early then their play action will kill us. The same way we played the Ravens last year in the AFC divisional. Bottle the RB up and force the QB to beat us through the air whilst increasing the opportunity for mistakes.

    You have to think that BB also has to look at what Rodgers did what he did against them with a "horrid" offensive line at the time.
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    The Texans use a heavy staple of play-action and that's never good news for our secondary which keeps biting (even Gregory has a bad tendency to take the cheese).

    Brady will have to get rid of the ball fast. The Texans may be weak in their secondary, but they are very strong up front and this will be similar to the awful games we had against the Giants where they shredded our OL. I expect to see hot routes and quick releases. J.J. Watts who was a big binky of mine, is going to be disruptive, no matter what.

    I think Spikes will be the key to shutting down their run game which is predicated on heavy zone blocking, i.e., you block whoever ends up in front of you, even if you end up doubling on a D-lineman but this blocking concept does not account for any extra man other than what is in front of you, so I imagine our D-lineman will be trying to jam the zone to create openings for the backers to exploit.
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    Yeah, Watt is amazing at his job. He's going to be a handful, but its only one guy for the most part. I think our offensive line can get the job done although I do miss Mankins.

    Will it be Solder against Watt for the most part? Maybe double teamed if necessary, either way, Brady has to have adequate time. You're right in the hot routes and screens though, Brady may not need too much time.
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    This matchup reminds me of the Baltimore game. Top end talent at RB with a gifted athlete at WR. The Play action will be a problem like you say. Hopefully the "new" secondary will confuse Schaub enough to allow QB pressure. On O.....let's hope Brady has his head screwed on a little tighter than he did in Miami. The uncertainty of how the OL would hold up took over inside his head in my opinion. I expect a big screen program
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    I think the thread is pretty normal. You have a handful of homers, a handful of sky is falling and most of them are realistic and know it's a dog fight which could go either way.

    I think Houston's success is going to depend a lot on the play calling on both sides of the ball. If Kubiak is smart he'll go play action early and often vs trying to establish the run first. The Pats are very stout against the run. On defense Houston comes in as a heavy blitz defense and Brady is great against the blitz. They would be smart to give a blitz look and drop out of it more often than not.
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    I think you're going to see more disguising in this game than you've seen the past two weeks combined.
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