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TERRIFYING 57% TAX LOOMS FOR Obama's health care

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  1. NEPatriot

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    DEMOCRATS HEALTH CARE PLAN FUNDING MAY TAX NEW YORK WEALTHY 57% - New York Post

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    New York Post = Garbage.
    More cut and paste today?
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    Is that 2 for you today?
    One more, right?
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    #24 Jersey

    Do you dispute the numbers ? CA isn't far behind and it's relatively easy for many to move elsewhere in the country.
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    What numbers do you have to contradict the numbers in the post?

    BTW this doesn't include the expiring Bush tax cuts that will add to this total.


    If you don't have any facts it is your post that is garbage.

    We eagerly await your %'s ofr taxes in NY.
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    Is anyone here a wealthy New Yorker?
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    #24 Jersey

    So it doesn't matter if it's not you, right ?
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    I know many of them.......my bro lives on the upper east side.......wealthy? depends on how you define that, but it ain't cheap living there


    the problem with this philosophy is what happens when there are fewer wealthy people once the govt has finished stepping on their toes........just like reagans trickle down economics, taxes to support health would trickle their way down the income ladder affecting everyone......placing additional burden on the group that already pays the largest portion of income taxes makes for a tenuous situation
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    Why do Obama supporters think that 'only' rich people will pay for it? Do they think about how the rich will take the money from your paycheck?
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    "The legislation is especially onerous for business owners, in part because it penalizes employers with a payroll bigger than $400,000 some 8 percent of wages if they don't offer health care. "

    Cool, sounds fair to me.

    But the cost of the buy-in to the program may be so prohibitive that it will dissuade owners from growing their businesses -- a scary prospect in the midst of a recession.

    May is the operative word here.

    "Placing a big tax burden on the small-business community would rob them of the resources they need to create the jobs that will lead us out of the recession," said Tom Donohue, president of the US Chamber of Commerce.

    Typical crap.
    "Big Tax Burden"? Like 8% of wages if they don't offer health care?
    Poor guys would have to offer insurance to their employees.
    Unless... there was another option. You know the one.


    ""According to what we've read, the House health-insurance plan would have a job-crippling impact on neighborhood stores and other small businesses because they put mandates on these businesses that would prevent them from hiring people because of the cost of the plan," Lipsky said

    Neighborhood stores with a payroll of $400,000 or more?
    Nice neighborhood.


    "The profits from small businesses would also be taxed on the back end."

    Uhmm. o.k.


    "If the House plan passes, Wylde said, "There literally, at this point, is very strong reason to relocate your family and your business outside New York."

    "The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed, if not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Minnow would be lost...".

    Whatever. It sounds like crap to me.
    More griping about taxes.
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    PEple will lose their jobs and business will be driven under due to this plan.
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    #95 Jersey

    Huh?? That is a small business with 8 employees earning $50K....
    throw in an 8% tax (32K) and one person loses their job to pay for it...
    That guy probably won't think it's such a great idea......
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    all I know is that I would pull out all the stops to hide my income from the government (legally, or course)

    eff them.....they're a bunch of pigs
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    #24 Jersey

    I think the Crazy one thought that meant $400K per employee. WRONG. It's almost every business with employees.
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    Offshore accounts.;);)
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    No, it's not that.
    I guess I'm sheltered.
    I have a different idea on what a "small' business is.
    I've never owned a business, and I've never earned $50,000 in a year.
    What I do know is every "small" business owner around here tries to screw their employees, and squeeze everythin they can out of them.
    Then, they toss them aside.
    But, I digress.
    I just think this article is a little over the top alarmist bias.
    But hey, whatever floats your boat.
    I don't see linking NY Post articles about "Terrifying" taxes that MIGHT end up happening as a way to promote mean9ingful discussion.
    Being middle class, taxes just are'nt the biggest thing on my mind.

    If we had a public health option, would'nt that make it easier for employers?
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    You really are sheltered. I own a small business with a half dozen employees, some who have been with me for 15 years ( not getting tossed aside.) I provide health insurance for the employees 100% and they pay a portion for their family members. We have a 401K retirement account so they have a vested interest in making sure the business is successful.
    A small business might be considered anything with less than 20 employees and anybody worth their salt knows that if you treat people well, they respond (usually and in most cases)_and it's a win-win situation.....
    Back to work....
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    Do you think the government in entitled to 60% of anyone's earnings?


    What is the max one should have to pay IYO?
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    Obama screws business people BIG time.
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