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    Individually, I like all of E.Sanders, Amendola, and D.Jones. Lloyd it's up in the air whether he will return this season.

    How many times in the past have we had WR's come in here, do absolutely nothing and then leave and be told it's "because they couldn't pick up the playbook" or "because they couldn't click with Brady".

    Well, we're looking at a season where ALL of Bradys receivers might be new guys who are learning the playbook and never caught passes from him before. Far too much pressure is being put on Brady to make it happen. I don't think those guys are scrubs, but they aren't physically dominating talents.

    Im' not sure how we can expect to run last years offense with so many new guys- new guys Brady isn't going o trust for a while to run the hurry up offense.
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    It's called training camp. When Branch screwed us we still had guys starting from scratch with lots of catches. Not ideal, obviously.

    The problem isn't putting up big numbers early, it's having a versatile offense that can adjust against tougher defensive play. We aren't evn done with FA, or started the draft.

    We'll have a camp full of receivers to compete and maybe get some play out of someone who isn't even on the radar.

    It's March. Don't be terrified, you'll get an ulcer.
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    Well although they're not WR's, we'll also have Gronk, Hernandez, Ballard, Vereen & Ridley catching passes. And hopefully Edelman, who if he can stay healthy, could play a significant part this season.
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    I don't normally advocate the use of illicit substances but you need to fire up a bong and worry less. There's plenty of time for the roster to be shaped.
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    We aren't trying to run last years offense. Welker is gone, Lloyd might not be here, we're signing or have signed a few 4.4 guys. We're going to attempt to be more vertical this season while still having the underneath stuff covered with Amendola and the Tight Ends.

    The team is becoming more aggressive on both sides of the ball. Wilson is an enforcer type, him and spikes together can set the tone on early downs. Abraham and/or Freeney to assist a pathetic pass rush from last year will help on 3rd downs. Speed guys on offense, who appear capable of running most of the routes in any playbook, at least at a glance they do, they are largely unproven, i'll give you that.

    The team is looking, to me anyways, to move away, even if just a little, from the bend-but-don't-break defense and dink-and-dunk offense to units capable of bigger plays, while sacrificing some consistency.

    I'm not saying this won't fail miserably, but I'm liking the theme i'm seeing so far quite a bit.
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    This Brady chemistry thing is overblown. It seems like he has bad chemistry with bad receivers and good chemistry with good receivers. These guys all look like pretty competent, talented, smart players. I wouldn't worry until there is a reason to.
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    What they are geuninely trying to do now is offer depth at the position.

    Bringing these players on now does that for the first time since 2008.

    Lets be honest. if Welker had went down at anytime after that we were screwed.

    I don't view Amendola as a strictly slot type receiver either.
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    "Terrified"???? It is a game, put it in perspective.
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    I like our WR situation. It seems like we are moving away from an offence that maybe have become too complicated. It also looks like we are trying to spread the offense out to the numbers too. Hopefully we will not be as dependent on one receiver like with Welker and we will spread it out more, making it harder for the defense to stop the offense.
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    If all else fails... Gronk will be back and will be ready to dominate. I'm not worried bout the offense.
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    Terrified ?? really if we add Sanders to our current group we are alot FASTER than the last two years. Donald Jones/Sanders are legit Speed threats on outside. I think the Pats did their homework on Jones he could be a pleasant surprise.
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    And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    Now that we have brought back Talib and Arrington, and expect to have Dennard, the focus shifts to wide receiver. Of course, we will still sign more defensive backs for camp; we always do.

    QUESTIONS

    A) What happens with Lloyd?

    B) What happens with Sanders?

    C) Are there any other trades to happen?

    D) Will we draft a defensive back? If so, will he be a corner or a safety. I think a corner is likely, given the one-year deal to Talib.

    Of course, we will sign more wide receivers later in free agency, as we always do.
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    Would still be good to add secondary depth through the draft. Not sure about Dennard's sentence yet. Dowling is a big ? mark. What do we target in round 1 anyways? We got our passrusher in Abraham and we got Wilson and Talib in the fold now. Hmmm. No word on Seabass so we might be looking at OT?
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    Hopefully they're waiting out on the Sanders signing cause they want to attempt a trade (for another WR)
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    I would go WR with the first round pick, try getting Terrance Williams or someone with a similar build. I wouldn't be against a DT or OL depending on what happens with Vollmer.

    Perfect draft for me would be

    Round 1 WR
    Round 2 DT/OL
    Round 3 Honey Badger :D

    Assuming we get a 3rd round pick through trading mallett or trading down.
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    Is it official yet?
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    We don't have Abraham, at least not yet.
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    I don't want Sanders. He isn't a field stretcher at all. Just another slot receiver. A lot of Pittsburgh fans want this to happen.
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    He was put in the slot because of who was ahead of him. He can play outside.
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    I still want to see a top rookie WR in the draft.

    If it were me, I'd trade our first and second round picks to the Bengals for both their seconds (5 and 21) and see if the Bengals would throw in a 4th or 5th.

    That way you could take a second round talent like Hopkins or Wheaton at WR--or Hunter if he lasts that long. Then focus on BPA at 21.
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    I think its clear after the AFC championship game Belichick decided something wasnt working with this offense which is why he blew it up...it doesnt matter having an ELITE offense in the regular season when it struggles to even put up a measly 21points come the playoffs

    teams who have won the superbowl these last few years have done so not with Dink and Dunk offenses, but with outside WR's who are physical and can win those 50-50 plays..our offense had become too finesse I think

    we'll still have the inside covered with amendola, hernandez, gronk.....but the additions of Jones and (hopefully) sanders will give us that vertical threat we've been looking for
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    Re: And The Focus Shifts to Wide Receiver

    Many Pitt fans say he is not physical which is why he would struggle on the outside. Tons of drops and mental lapses too. If he was unrestricted I would go for him but I feel like Donald Jones could do a just as well.

    Just my opinion though, I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
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    This, something wasn't clicking and I think now it will. I seriously see 07 reborn but we win the SB.
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    We are 5 days into free agency, so relax. There is still a lot to unfold here. Amendola knows the system from his time with McDaniels and neither of the other guys are going to be focal points of the offense (if Sanders even winds up here). The TE's, Amendola, and whoever they get to play outside (if Lloyd is let go) are going to be the focal points of this offense.
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    Please be quiet edited.

    I like reading about the latest incarnation of the team as much as anybody, but please, please, please let's nip this "07 reborn" crap in the bud. That was a special season, and it ain't coming back. The end of it was a special kind of let-down, the kind some of us old folks (who also follow baseball) remember fondly from the 70s and 80s Sox but on steroids. The end of that season was so mind-bogglingly bad that it makes you realize that yes, you can sour an achievement as monumental as an undefeated regular season.

    Be all that as it may, the urge is obviously going to be strong to get "do-overs." You don't get do-overs in life. We'll probably never see 07 "reborn." Ever. Someone on here seems destined to say it every off-season, and I guess in the very unlikely case that one is ever right, they get bragging rights to be the clock that was stopped on that number at that time of day. But for everybody else, not only is it unlikely in the extreme, it's also banal to keep predicting it... and a little painful.

    Whatever Vegas says... and most years Vegas says we win the SB... it's 32-1 odds against. Beating those odds is enough to hope for.

    I like saying "Hey we have a pretty good shot at beating those odds, compared with all the other 32-1 against teams" every year. That's what a "dynasty" is, and that much more so in the cap/free agency era.

    We're always in the mix. At this point, that's what the great looming flying elvis presence means... you will always have to deal with the Pats (for 12 years running now, give or take.) Not bad.

    But whatever moves we make, we can't make enough of them to make an 07 redux even infinitesimally likely.
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    Really....

    Wasn't the Caldwell year still a great year to watch football?
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    Screw 07, I want 03 and 04 reborn. Get a defense and pound teams while Rodgers and Manning put up arcade numbers and go he crying in January.
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    You're right! If Lloyd goes, Tom Brady has no receivers that he is familiar with. Shades of 2006.
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    Yeah... and that was all about enough offense, enough defense, enough depth. If you think back (always dangerous, because you don't recapture those teams either,) that was well before the "modern" game. In fact, much of the "modern" game came into being as a result of the Pats' success... e.g., the proclamation from on high that DBs are no longer allowed to cover receivers (a bit of an overstatement, but who will argue that Polian's special pleading for an anti-Patriotic "point of emphasis" was a big part of the pass-happy evolution of the league?)

    Okay, you always try to get better in FA. Hell, the Antowain Smith to Corey Dillon upgrade is a perfect example. No argument. Nobody ever got better by saying "well this guy can't play but we love him to death." That was one area where BB was playing chess while other teams were often playing checkers from day one, being as ruthless as the game's development suggested.

    And okay, you never go back to a dream season (or seasons), but if you're going to hope for going back to something, it really is smarter to go back to a super bowl season.

    I'm just saying that all you can say is you like the moves so far or you don't. We know people are dumb if they say (and they will) "The Pats are done... Welker is gone." But it's just as dumb to paint a team as a shoe-in when they sign on some new talent.

    Like the upgrade so far, overall. I think we're getting better this off-season, and I'm excited too.

    But fercristssake it's March. What are we, JEST fans?
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    More like shades of 2007.

    When we went out and got Stallworth, Moss, and Welker in the offseason. That worked out pretty well.
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