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    Abortion ad draws ire - BostonHerald.com

    Why do these people call themself pro-choice?
    From what I have heard the Tebow & Mom add is promoting life as a
    valid option. They are not fighting to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    It is amazing how the same people who do not want the death penalty
    for murders embrace the idea of terminating the heartbeat of a innocent child.
     
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    Because its about allowing the woman carrying the fetus to control her own body as opposed to allowing some religious wacko to do it for her. If you'd like to whip yourself like the Pope, that's fine, just please don't impose your creepy religious values on the rest of us.
     
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    From what I have heard the Tebow add is not intended to take control
    of a womens body or overturn roe v wade.

    Isn't that just freedom of speech?

    There are no abortion clinics bombings being planned.
    He is just celebrating life !

    What is wrong withpromoting LIFE as an option?.


    I always assumed choice has more than one option.

    Just for the record... I have no religion in my life.
    If you must categorize me... categorize me as agnostic.

    You don't need religion to value life.
    As a father of 2, I know the joys of life without the help of a priest, minister, or a Rabbai.
     
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    #37 Jersey

    So now murder is a religous value?

    Pro-Abortion people are ******* sick and demented.
     
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    Isn't that exactly what his mother did....control her own body by choosing to carry him or is it only controling your body if you choose abortion?? I think a creepier value is the presumtiom that a fetus should be aborted. It's also pretty creepy that an ad celebrating the choice of life is demonized.
     
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    I remember when I was a lad
    Times were hard and things were bad

    When I was a teenager seven different girls came crying to me and said I knocked them up, I couldn't deny it, I took them Horseback Riding at the Pine Banks Riding Academy in Melrose Ma, not one of them had a kid, later in life they all married and raised beautiful family's, I used to run into them at party's, weddings and funerals, we would say "hi" then just smile...............

    To me "late term abortion is murder" if a women is going to abort a baby "do it early" I would still prefer the Condom, the Pill, or a "Hand Job"

    If a women is raped abort it, who would want a child fathered by a piece of sh!t.

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    there is this thing called 'freedom of speech'

    that said, it is of very poor taste to convey such a message during a drunken brouhaha
     
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    This reminds me of the Carrie Prejean discussions...

    Show you are prochoice and hit the mute button
     
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    I don't know what yor're talking about. The ad is broadcast loud and clear; nothing mute about it. This is a specific case with a great outcome. How is this a threat to other woman? Seriously, it seems like the outrage over the ad is because she that she decided to carry the child and because she celebrated that fact with her son it must mean that woman's rights are being attacked in some way.

    I've discussed this before. Many so called pro-choice groups seem more like pro abortion groups based on their propencity jump all over anyone who promotes life as a valid if not prefered choice. It's becoming apparent to me that the prefered "choice" for these groups is abortion.
     
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    Reread what I said, before you engage in the atypical knee jerk reaction of the right..

    It reminds me of the Prejean discussion, because who gives a flying f... ck.

    If you do not want to listen, exercise your prochoice right and hit the mute button..
     
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    A little bitter today Darryl? NOW, the New York-based Women’s Media Center, the Feminist Majority and other groups are all over this and obvioulsy give f...ck with their kneejerk reactions. It's been all over the news and their reaction is appropriate to respond to. If anyone needs to hit the mute button over this it's those groups. This is an important story that could have real life changing implications for people that may find themselves with similar choices to make. To compare it to some dizzy beauty contestant's 5 minutes of fame is wrong.
     
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    Pro Life vs pro-abortion.... A little more important than a beauty pagent scandal.

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    As usual the only discernible thing anyone can get from your words is that you're a miserable person who's not very good at expressing a coherent opinion. Oh, and thanks for demonstrating just how little class you have by posting that picture as well.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with choosing to carry a baby to birth and I've never, ever advocated against a woman doing that, but of course you guys never go about promoting that. Its always got to be about demonizing the women who make the choice you don't approve of. You don't really give a rat's azz about Tebo or his mother. You're just using the circumstances of his birth to shame people who don't agree with you.
     
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    Nice commentary from the right, we have come to expect it.. people want to make it a big issue, but in reality no one really cares... except a few on the left and a few on the right.. while the majority in the middle do not care...

    BTW the right is pro birth, not pro life..
     
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    #12 Jersey

    It's a pretty big story and is being covered by the majority if not all major media outlets. I wonder if you're dismissing it because it's a feel good birth choice story......oh and

    As long as we're making stupid generalizations:

    BTW the left is pro-death, not pro-choice
     
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    My wife and I did not meet until we were in out late 30's and we got married
    when I was 40 & she was 38. After multiple misscariages & help from
    Brighams & Womens hopspital, my wife got pregnant in the fall of 2005.
    When she was 11 weeks pregnant my wife found out that she had thyroid
    cancer. She decided to take the risk and wait until she had the baby before
    having her thyroid removed. She had the thyroid removed the day after
    having the baby. She then had to drink a radiation drink. My wife was not
    allowed contact with her new baby for the first 30 days because of the radiation drink.

    I think we know something about celebrating life & we can relate to the
    Tebow story.

    This has nothing to do with religion !

    I just do not understand why the pro-abortion people call themself
    pro-choice.

    They don't want any option than the worst option.
    If they were pro-choice, they would not have a problem with people
    who choose life.

    If someone decides to have an abortion, it is none of my business.
    I am not out to overturn Roe v Wade.

    Then again, I am not going to pat them on the back, when I know the
    number of people who are waiting to adopt.

    An abortion is the easy way out !
    It is nothing to celebrate !
     
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    What makes you think they have a problem with people who choose life? Most of "them," myself included, only want for people to have the choice available. Most of "them" understand that until you walk the mile in someone else's shoes you shouldn't judge or limit those who are walking their walk.

    If someone decides to have a baby, it is none of my business, either. I am not out to force anyone into anything they do not want to do - that includes either giving birth or terminating a pregnancy.

    I, personally, believe that we should offer instructions in birth control methods to those who desire the information - make birth control affordable and available to anyone who wants it - offer much more in the way of assistance to those who choose either single parenthood or adoption and increase programs like WIC and day care for lower income families - and make the "morning after" pill more easily obtainable.

    That's just me, though - and while I would leave abortion information til last if asked for assistance I would still not want to see it become an unavailable option for women in general. I would, however, like to see it become an obsolete need.
     
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    I agree with you on most of your comments....
    I support....
    Education....
    Birth control...
    adoption....
    Wic & day care...

    My thread is about why they call themself "pro-choice".
    If they have a problem with the Tebow add, they are not pro-choice.

    The add is not about overturning Roe v Wade.
    The add is about celebrating life... from what I have heard about it.

    They should not call themself pro-choice
    They should call themself pro-abortion.

    They do not support a womens right to choose.
    They support a womens right to choose abortion.

    I am sure there are tons of people who are pro-choice...
    The list does not include the people who are fighting to keep the Tebow
    add off of TV. Those people are pro-abortion.
     
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    And the left is pro-abortion, not pro-choice. They show this when they openly demonstrate their complete disdain for any woman who, when facing tough times or a difficult pregnancy, "chooses" life.
     

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