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    Abortion ad draws ire - BostonHerald.com

    Why do these people call themself pro-choice?
    From what I have heard the Tebow & Mom add is promoting life as a
    valid option. They are not fighting to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    It is amazing how the same people who do not want the death penalty
    for murders embrace the idea of terminating the heartbeat of a innocent child.
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    Because its about allowing the woman carrying the fetus to control her own body as opposed to allowing some religious wacko to do it for her. If you'd like to whip yourself like the Pope, that's fine, just please don't impose your creepy religious values on the rest of us.
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    From what I have heard the Tebow add is not intended to take control
    of a womens body or overturn roe v wade.

    Isn't that just freedom of speech?

    There are no abortion clinics bombings being planned.
    He is just celebrating life !

    What is wrong withpromoting LIFE as an option?.


    I always assumed choice has more than one option.

    Just for the record... I have no religion in my life.
    If you must categorize me... categorize me as agnostic.

    You don't need religion to value life.
    As a father of 2, I know the joys of life without the help of a priest, minister, or a Rabbai.
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    So now murder is a religous value?

    Pro-Abortion people are ******* sick and demented.
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    Isn't that exactly what his mother did....control her own body by choosing to carry him or is it only controling your body if you choose abortion?? I think a creepier value is the presumtiom that a fetus should be aborted. It's also pretty creepy that an ad celebrating the choice of life is demonized.
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    I remember when I was a lad
    Times were hard and things were bad

    When I was a teenager seven different girls came crying to me and said I knocked them up, I couldn't deny it, I took them Horseback Riding at the Pine Banks Riding Academy in Melrose Ma, not one of them had a kid, later in life they all married and raised beautiful family's, I used to run into them at party's, weddings and funerals, we would say "hi" then just smile...............

    To me "late term abortion is murder" if a women is going to abort a baby "do it early" I would still prefer the Condom, the Pill, or a "Hand Job"

    If a women is raped abort it, who would want a child fathered by a piece of sh!t.

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    there is this thing called 'freedom of speech'

    that said, it is of very poor taste to convey such a message during a drunken brouhaha
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    This reminds me of the Carrie Prejean discussions...

    Show you are prochoice and hit the mute button
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    I don't know what yor're talking about. The ad is broadcast loud and clear; nothing mute about it. This is a specific case with a great outcome. How is this a threat to other woman? Seriously, it seems like the outrage over the ad is because she that she decided to carry the child and because she celebrated that fact with her son it must mean that woman's rights are being attacked in some way.

    I've discussed this before. Many so called pro-choice groups seem more like pro abortion groups based on their propencity jump all over anyone who promotes life as a valid if not prefered choice. It's becoming apparent to me that the prefered "choice" for these groups is abortion.
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    Reread what I said, before you engage in the atypical knee jerk reaction of the right..

    It reminds me of the Prejean discussion, because who gives a flying f... ck.

    If you do not want to listen, exercise your prochoice right and hit the mute button..
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    A little bitter today Darryl? NOW, the New York-based Women’s Media Center, the Feminist Majority and other groups are all over this and obvioulsy give f...ck with their kneejerk reactions. It's been all over the news and their reaction is appropriate to respond to. If anyone needs to hit the mute button over this it's those groups. This is an important story that could have real life changing implications for people that may find themselves with similar choices to make. To compare it to some dizzy beauty contestant's 5 minutes of fame is wrong.
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    Pro Life vs pro-abortion.... A little more important than a beauty pagent scandal.

    If you don't like a thread... ignore it... sign off of your computer off and
    review your AARP newsletter.
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    As usual the only discernible thing anyone can get from your words is that you're a miserable person who's not very good at expressing a coherent opinion. Oh, and thanks for demonstrating just how little class you have by posting that picture as well.
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    There's nothing wrong with choosing to carry a baby to birth and I've never, ever advocated against a woman doing that, but of course you guys never go about promoting that. Its always got to be about demonizing the women who make the choice you don't approve of. You don't really give a rat's azz about Tebo or his mother. You're just using the circumstances of his birth to shame people who don't agree with you.
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    Nice commentary from the right, we have come to expect it.. people want to make it a big issue, but in reality no one really cares... except a few on the left and a few on the right.. while the majority in the middle do not care...

    BTW the right is pro birth, not pro life..
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    It's a pretty big story and is being covered by the majority if not all major media outlets. I wonder if you're dismissing it because it's a feel good birth choice story......oh and

    As long as we're making stupid generalizations:

    BTW the left is pro-death, not pro-choice
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    My wife and I did not meet until we were in out late 30's and we got married
    when I was 40 & she was 38. After multiple misscariages & help from
    Brighams & Womens hopspital, my wife got pregnant in the fall of 2005.
    When she was 11 weeks pregnant my wife found out that she had thyroid
    cancer. She decided to take the risk and wait until she had the baby before
    having her thyroid removed. She had the thyroid removed the day after
    having the baby. She then had to drink a radiation drink. My wife was not
    allowed contact with her new baby for the first 30 days because of the radiation drink.

    I think we know something about celebrating life & we can relate to the
    Tebow story.

    This has nothing to do with religion !

    I just do not understand why the pro-abortion people call themself
    pro-choice.

    They don't want any option than the worst option.
    If they were pro-choice, they would not have a problem with people
    who choose life.

    If someone decides to have an abortion, it is none of my business.
    I am not out to overturn Roe v Wade.

    Then again, I am not going to pat them on the back, when I know the
    number of people who are waiting to adopt.

    An abortion is the easy way out !
    It is nothing to celebrate !
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    What makes you think they have a problem with people who choose life? Most of "them," myself included, only want for people to have the choice available. Most of "them" understand that until you walk the mile in someone else's shoes you shouldn't judge or limit those who are walking their walk.

    If someone decides to have a baby, it is none of my business, either. I am not out to force anyone into anything they do not want to do - that includes either giving birth or terminating a pregnancy.

    I, personally, believe that we should offer instructions in birth control methods to those who desire the information - make birth control affordable and available to anyone who wants it - offer much more in the way of assistance to those who choose either single parenthood or adoption and increase programs like WIC and day care for lower income families - and make the "morning after" pill more easily obtainable.

    That's just me, though - and while I would leave abortion information til last if asked for assistance I would still not want to see it become an unavailable option for women in general. I would, however, like to see it become an obsolete need.
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    I agree with you on most of your comments....
    I support....
    Education....
    Birth control...
    adoption....
    Wic & day care...

    My thread is about why they call themself "pro-choice".
    If they have a problem with the Tebow add, they are not pro-choice.

    The add is not about overturning Roe v Wade.
    The add is about celebrating life... from what I have heard about it.

    They should not call themself pro-choice
    They should call themself pro-abortion.

    They do not support a womens right to choose.
    They support a womens right to choose abortion.

    I am sure there are tons of people who are pro-choice...
    The list does not include the people who are fighting to keep the Tebow
    add off of TV. Those people are pro-abortion.
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    And the left is pro-abortion, not pro-choice. They show this when they openly demonstrate their complete disdain for any woman who, when facing tough times or a difficult pregnancy, "chooses" life.
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    Really, Wolfpack? And you know this how?

    Just for the record - do you consider me part of this "left?"
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    I know this because of the way they act when matters like this come to the forefront. Just look at how mad they are that Tebow's mother is making a commercial where she talks about how happy she is that she chose to have him instead of abort him.
    Well if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, chances are it's a duck. Tell me, why were you selective in your response in this thread? DarrlyS wrote "BTW the right is pro birth, not pro life.." and I responded with my comment.

    You completely let his remark slide, but feebly attempt to call me out on mine. Why is that?
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    So I have low class for posting a picture of something you support?

    If it is so offensive than why are you for it?
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    Once again a very high standard of finding the truth...I know because of the way they act.. who acts and what actions are you talking about.. opposition to the death penalty, opposition to the war... it goes on and on..

    Not everyone is mad at Tebow's mother, some people are mad at her.. the nice thing about the left is that you do not have to believe a specific set of values.. you can be against choice and be a Democrat, against gay marriage and be a Democrat, for the Death Penalty and be a democrat, against closing Guantanamo and be a democrat, for the Afghan surge and be a democrat, you see the Republican does not allow for much wiggle room in these issues...

    This is a very difficult for the Left to understand, that the Dems are more of a confederation of very strange bedfellows.. instead of a party of a set of values all goosestepping to the march of their most influential leaders, the Mediots...
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    I'm pro-choice, against the death penalty, pretty green, support stronger gun control, have saved greyhounds, give to charities(Haiti most recently) but would rather teach a man to fish where appropriate, voted for Obama, would not oppose any equal benefits for gays but believe marriage is between one man and one woman, am white and have dated a black woman(I can tell you I learned a lot about some hypocrite democrats back then) but still get nervous when alone in certain black neighborhoods. I am bothered when I see two men kiss but not when I see two woman kiss. There's lots a wish I weren't and lots I wish I could be. I try to be my best though but I don't like being lumped into fringe elements and try not to lump others into them. I could go on but this isn't about me. I'm just trying to make a point.

    See, republicans are no different than democrats for the most part. If you define a party by the fringe elements in it then you would be making a mistake.

    Back to the original thread.

    Some of the most influential woman's groups in the country are embarrassing themselves with their “outrage” over this heartwarming story because they feel threatened by it. This is my take:

    You'd have to take a side to actually address the two sides here so you'd rather dismiss it and reduce to the level of a beauty pageant discussion, that no one's interested in and certainly not worthy of a comment. Now that you've been pushed into a corner you attack us and call our life choice position as hollow. I think you know the woman's groups are off base here but you just can't bring yourself to admit it. Am I wrong?
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    Nothing classy about killing babies.
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    I'm coming to this story a little late.

    Focus on the Family - Rasmussen Reports

    I sometimes wonder what great, All-Pro football players have never seen the light of day because of abortion.

    Also, new technology showing "fetuses" looking a lot like babies in utero--sucking thumbs and the like--are giving the pro-choice ground less and less ground to stand on that's high ground by anyone's definition.

    It's one thing to defend abortion in the case of rape and incest, but I don't think that should muck-up the waters since that's such a small percentage. Something like one percent.

    Let's be honest, shall we? Abortion is simply another form of birth control. It's increasingly seen by Americans to be creepy and unseemly.

    I'm still waiting for the investigative reporting of a partial-birth "procedure."

    The Left stands for the poorest and most vulnerable among us, or at least they say so. But I can't think of a more vulnerable group than unborn babies.

    P.S. Ever heard of a Fetus Shower? It's always a baby shower. For those of us who have had babies, the realization sets in pretty quickly that what's growing inside is life. You know, growth, movement, beating heart. Stuff that if we discover on another planet we'd go nuts over.
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    Read the reaction of the left to the ad with Tebow and his Mom. Pro abortion groups are trying to censor them and prevent their story from being told.
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    Your right if the baby killed by the abortion is just a lump of tissue and not human why are the pro abortion people so put out by the pics of the aftermath of the 'procedure'?
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    My point is who gives a ratz azz about Tebow and his mommy, reminds me of Carrie Prejean, turn on the mute button if you do not want to hear it.. that is all... you know it is coming. There was a gay dating site, or something like that, that they refused to allow...

    That is a group from the left who disagrees, it is not the democratic party.. it is a group that is all..

    You better be careful the right is watching you, you might become banished..

    My position is not hollow, you are the exception.. for the most part if you read the threads on this board, which is a microcosm of the right, they are pretty much consistent.. ACORN Bad, Pro Choice Good, O'Keefe a victim, Unions bad, Death Penalty good, Global Warming bad, Iraq War Good, Afghanistan surge needed but bad because Obama did it, gay marriage is bad.. follow all of the discussion and then tell me that I am wrong..

    But glad to see that you are not a lemming and can think for yourself, unfortunately many do not..

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