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    He only plays one with his son.

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    At left: Iott (center), who is labeled under his pseudonym "Reinhardt," is pictured at the ReenactorFest at the Sheraton Hotel in Chicago in 2006. The photo caption says the reenactors are pictured with "Herr Schneider, a REAL Vet of 5.SS 'Wiking'!"

    Rich Iott, the Tea Party-supported GOP nominee for Congress in Ohio's 9th District, is part of a group that likes to don German Waffen SS uniforms and participate Nazi re-enactments, Atlantic journalist Josh Green revealed on "Real Time with Bill Maher."

    The group, called Wiking, acts out exploits from the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking, an actual Nazi division, which fought on the Eastern Front during World War II .

    Iott, who confirms his involvement with the group, denies any belief in the principles of Nazism.

    "It's purely historical interest in World War II," he told The Atlantic.

    Iott can't remember when he joined the group, although his name appears on a group roster from 2003. He says he participated in the group with his son "as a father-son bonding thing."


    Atlantic: Ohio GOP Candidate for Congress Dresses as Nazi - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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    Looks like right wing nirvana, i.e. a SS circle jerk..
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    Achtung:
    Gochenien undotten blandenfukken.
    Herr Schnaker

    :bricks:
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    Americans play Call of Duty and kill virtual Americans. Why can't some dude dress up and reenact Nazis fighting Commies?
    Would I vote for him? Hell no. But I don't see a real big issue with him dressing as a German from WW2. If you talk to a WW2 vet, Korea vet, etc.. you often hear how they go back and meet veterans from the other side and they bond and hold no animosity. The war is over. If this guy starts saying Jews should be rounded up in camps, ok, there's something going on. But just playing dress up? Na. Not a big deal.
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    Don't know anything about this guy pro or con.

    Does this mean that Revoluntary War reinactors who dress up as Red Coats wish we were still a colony?

    Same with Civil War guys are the Blues against slavery and the Grays for slavery?

    Really?
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    It's a free country but you have to wonder why they dress up like Nazi's. ...Red flag as far as I'm concerned
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    The resident ball washer of the right appears and sounds stupid once again.. it is ok in your world for a prospective elected official to dress up like a nazi:confused::confused::confused:it is a wonderful world of the right, defend them to the end.
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    My thoughts exactly. 13 could be spot on w/the Civil War and revolutionary War re-enactors analogy (though at least the confederates were Americans, and even in the Revolutionary War the Brits and many of the residents were essentially of the same mindset), but it raises some questions
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    Except the Nazi's killed over 6 million+ innocents in their quest for ethnic cleansing.... the Red Coats were occupiers of our country during a colonial time.. . quite a bit of difference...

    A reasonable person would assume that this dude has some very dark fantasy about power and the way the world works...

    But if that is ok, so be it.. the world works strangely right now.
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    If you don't know the difference between a war and a genocide - or the difference between a soldier in an army and an officer in the SS - I'm certainly not going to take the time to explain it to you.
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    agreed, but I didn't want to delve further into any possible comparison of the wars, each side's actions, etc.

    One can read Mein Kampf or Mao's quotations without believing in Hitler's or Mao's ideologies or agreeing with their methods. (Though I think many on the right might dispute this...) I guess it's similarly possible to role-play them in WWII re-enactments without it being an endorsement of their atrocities.
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    I worked with a couple of guys who did this stuff (Civil War in their case), they were History buff who had read all the Shelby Foote stuff Bruce Catton and everything else about the Civil War. They were affiliated with different units, from the North and the South, they would get together and re enact actual historical battles. I was actually in the military so I never had any interest in being a pretend soldier. The guys who were into it had never been in the military.

    So I went to the OP link, and then to the website for the group, and the website for the group they are associated with,


    Willkommen! 5th SS Wiking German Reenactment Page


    From the front page of their website:


    So they are a member of another organization "The World War Two Historical Re-enactment Society"

    Here is a link for their home page:

    Home - WWII HRS

    Here is a link to the page of their affilates:

    HRS Units - WWII HRS


    You will note that there are multple groups reenacting for the following countries, USA, British Commonwealth, Poland, France, Soviet Union, Gremany and Italy.

    Wonder if the Russian re enactors from the Russian units are communist? or the Italian units are supporters of Mussolini. These guys have gt otgethers too to reenact battles and exchange information.

    Silly not dangerous like sitting in a racist church for 20 years or going to fundraisers hosted by real terrorist who were murderers.


    Pretty pathetic smear if you ask me. But when you can't talk about jobs, the deficit, home foreclosures, the economy, energy prices, smears is all you have left.
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    What, exactly, was the smear?

    Do you really not understand that dressing as a Nazi is going to raise questions?

    As for the Obama references, what evidence do you have of the racism?

    And what was the cause of the fundraiser you're referring to?
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    Define real ??????????????????
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    The implication that he is some sort of Nazi sympathizer or else why make it part of a campaign? This isn't about any policy positions after and see some of the reactions from posters on this thread.
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    That's not very specific -- are you referring to CBS, the Atlantic, bill maher, Eric cantor? Who specifically, and what was the smear?

    As for what is legit, most people go beyond policy claims, on both sides of the aisle. And why wouldn't they, given how often pols diverge from their campaign promises once in office? (If he were a Nazi but he said what you wanted to hear on sone matters of policy, would you really want him in office?)
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    If he were a Nazi I wouldn't care but then I don't like National Socialist policies either (gun control, national health care, anti semitism and so on).

    There ongoing set of smears are designed to divert attention from the issues like the ones mentioned in the other post. Take the whole witch story, and Meg Whitman firing a person she paid $23/hr who lied about her citizenship.
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    I don't know anything about this guy either, but I do know that historical battle reenactment are pretty boring with a couple hundred guys on one side and no one on the other.
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    So nothing specific regarding the "smear"?

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