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  1. reflexblue

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    Good op-ed piece by Paul Krugman about whos really behind these tea parties. You'll never guess, Republican Billionaires and Dick "deregulation" Armey.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/opinion/13krugman.html?_r=1

    Today’s G.O.P. is, after all, very much a minority party. It retains some limited ability to obstruct the Democrats, but has no ability to make or even significantly shape policy.

    Beyond that, Republicans have become embarrassing to watch. And it doesn’t feel right to make fun of crazy people. Better, perhaps, to focus on the real policy debates, which are all among Democrats

    One way to get a good sense of the current state of the G.O.P., and also to see how little has really changed, is to look at the “tea parties” that have been held in a number of places already, and will be held across the country on Wednesday. These parties — antitaxation demonstrations that are supposed to evoke the memory of the Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution — have been the subject of considerable mockery, and rightly so.

    Last but not least: it turns out that the tea parties don’t represent a spontaneous outpouring of public sentiment. They’re AstroTurf (fake grass roots) events, manufactured by the usual suspects. In particular, a key role is being played by FreedomWorks, an organization run by Richard Armey, the former House majority leader, and supported by the usual group of right-wing billionaires. And the parties are, of course, being promoted heavily by Fox News.
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    Funny Steele asked to speak at one and the organizers told him party and elected officals weren't welcome...


    If these are such a joke how come the left wing blogsphere are planning to inflitrate and disrupt these protests? Code Pinkand bloggers on Huff post for example?
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    #91 Jersey

    I've been up all night, so you can argue it with someone else. I gotts to go home.
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    I don't see why the tea parties are bugging so many people. Sure, there will be some nuts there, but most of the people I know/have heard of going to these things are just concerned about the direction of the country. The same as when people protest wars, G-8 summits, or laws they don't like. If they act like sane people and calmly get their message across, it's all good. It's freedom of speech.
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    Definition Of Tea Party:

    Group Of People Acting Like Democrat Bush Haters.
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    Soon-to-be-seen headlline...

    DID TARP MONEY GO TO TEABAGGING PARTIES???

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    #91 Jersey

    Like someone said you'd have to have some really big balls to "tea bag" the White House. :p
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    OH NO PFiV went..............Big Font :eek: on it :D
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    all of a sudden it's not the highest form of patriotism?
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    So all those thousands who showed up in different cities across the country were billionaire's?
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    I don't either. Why so down on a bunch of people who've decided to express their concerns,outrage,whatever about something they're displeased with?

    Isn't that supposedly one of the very good things about America, the right to peacefully assemble and protest? LOL it's so ridiculous that good old Fox is apparently the only station who's covering these across the nation; no other news media's going to, at least last I knew.

    I think it's great and I think it's funny that people are so freaked about them lol.
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    Kruggy was just trying to point out, I think, that since evil crazy nazi billionaire's funded it, it's not technically grassroots, since grassroots has to all come from the people. But whatever. The point is that it's people who are concerned with the direction of the country and are trying to do something about it using their freedom of speech. Kruggy just doesn't like it, so he could go two routes: make them look either crazy and fanatical (which most of the media will go for) or like they're part of the vast right wing conspiracy, which is what he went for. I don't think he understands that they sincerely hold a belief conflicting with his.
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    They'll cover it tomorrow, but will make it seem insignificant and/or that it's a bunch of crazy nutjobs.
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    If this was 6 months ago and, thousands of people were publically protesting gubmit policy, or even the first bailout, all those other stations would be covering it, and certain people in here would have a different take on it. Of course, some others in here would probably be calling those protesters names, that aren't doing so now.
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    lol, word.
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    They'll find a skirmish or 2 and replay those broadcasts over and over again,leaving out the actual point of the protests much like what was done in London tho not on such a scale.

    Most peaceful protests get swept under a rug unfortunately. Maybe it just depends on the cause ;)
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    All the Anti Bush and other Loon Democrat marches on Washington are beautiful things to observe.

    But boy oh boy those republican bastards daring to have a "Tea Party" is disgraceful especially with The Glorious Prince Barack now being our President, why it even could be considered Racist and it's also cruel and vile, the Bastard Republicans planned this right when they knew that our Great Messiah Obama would be playing with his new puppy.

    SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL TEA PARTY
    YES WE CAN--YES WE CAN--YES WE CAN
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    Ummmmmm.....

    The Boston Tea party happened because the people wanted to TAX the East India Tea company. They were fighting FOR taxes!


    again....



    The Boston Tea Party happend because we wanted to TAX A CORPORATION!!!!!!!!!


    "The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act for a variety of reasons, especially because they believed that it violated their constitutional right to be taxed only by their own elected representatives. Protestors had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain. He apparently did not expect that the protestors would choose to destroy the tea rather than concede the authority of a legislature in which they were not directly represented."


    Boston Tea Party Historical Society
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    Boston Tea Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Good old wiki-but it does offer a detailed account of how it all began and then evolved.

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    This exchange on FOX news about the 'grassroots' origins, and denial by the anchor and newscasters is REDONCULOUS....

    Think Progress Appearing On Fox, ThinkProgress’s Faiz Shakir Calls Out Network For Promoting Anti-Obama Tea Parties

    SHAKIR: These tea parties are a sham. The reason they’re a sham is because they’re directed by lobbyists here in D.C. … And on top of that, you’ve got this network, Fox News, which is advocacy — pushing this, promoting this with all of its heart. And it is not a grassroots movement when you have Jonathan Hoenig, Neil Cavuto, Glenn Beck, Greta Van Susteren promoting this up the wazoo. That is not a grassroots movement.

    PAYNE: Faiz, let me just jump in. There’s a big difference between covering something and promoting it.

    SHAKIR: That’s not what’s going on.

    HOENIG: What you’ve got, Faiz, is 500 cities and literally tens of thousands of people, myself included —

    SHAKIR: Directed by corporate lobbyists and corporate money.

    HOENIG: That’s not true! Why do you keep saying that? Am I directed by lobbyists, Faiz? Am I paid by lobbyists? You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about!






    then this happened....




    PAYNE: Thank you, panel. Excellent job. Okay. Why it’s time to party like it’s 1773. Next. […]



    classic.

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