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  1. DGameguy

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    ...has cost us more games than videogate did the Jets.

    The movement of Lawyer Milloy to the Buffalo Bills at the beginning of the season (because he found out how much the Redskins and Bills would pay him), left the team in turmoil, and also left the team without a left/Free safety for an important divisional game. The team had just come off a difficult season and the shutout loss could have drastically changed the fortunes of the team.

    The Patriots never got to use the video against the Jets according to the supposed way it would be reviewed during halftime. They ran a pass play to Moss in triple coverage and he beat the Jets defense. If they had this knowledge of the Jets signals then, then they would not have run that play.

    Im not saying that violating the videotaping rules was right, but I don't see how its worse than tampering, which has been used against the Patriots at least twice, with no punishments handed out. Let's not forget about that.
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    You gotta prove tampering to take actions. The problem is it is near impossible to prove tampering unless you can get every person involved telephone records including home and cell phones. And even then it would difficult to prove that a phone conversation between a team and an agent was about a specific player.
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    No one has said the the video would be analyzed at halftime, in fact the only comment I've seen on it was that it would used for scouting tendencies after the fact (Dale Arnold, WEEI).

    IMO, it would be way too much of a pain to get any useful information from the video to be used in that game.
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    That's true but there really has been no proof that the taping occurred during other games, which is supposedly what makes this offense so serious. No other tapes were taken, so it really is just speculation or rumor. Just like the radio signals rumor, there is no proof that it happened.

    If the league can order the seizure of a videocamera or a tape Im sure it can order that a team or player hand over phone records.
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    The Daily News said that the cameraman was taking the tape into the locker room during halftime, and thats what most of the news reports I have heard said that it would be used for, because teams change their signals from game to game. It sounds a bit too complex to pull off during the 12 minutes of halftime but thats what the reports have been saying.
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    A. what does The Daily News know? did they actually see a cameraman taking a tape into the locker room? who the fu ck uses tapes anymore? (no one) it already sounds totally bogus... The patriots have $100 million to spend on winning this game, and they use a video camera from 1989, that still uses tapes? the reports are wrong.
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2007/09/12/2007-09-12_eric_mangini_exposes_bill_belichicks_spy.html

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    How serious is it, really? As far as I can tell, the Patriots violated a rule about video and photography equipment. There are no rules in the books about reading another teams signs. It's perfectly OK to do so and it's a common and accepted practice.
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    there was no tape. take it to the bank.
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    Every report Ive read said that at least the camera was taken and that a tape was taken as well (or some type or storage media the news media is calling a tape), but I digress, the point of this thread was tampering...
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