Welcome to PatsFans.com

Taliban "on brink of defeat"

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by otis p. driftwood, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. otis p. driftwood

    otis p. driftwood Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    Messages:
    5,271
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-Taliban-insurgents-'on-brink-of-defeat'.html
  2. Harry Boy

    Harry Boy Look Up, It's Amazing PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Messages:
    39,085
    Likes Received:
    124
    Ratings:
    +333 / 1 / -9

    They'll be back after Prince Obama "Surrenders"
  3. STFarmy

    STFarmy Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,677
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

    Come on a.paul, don't you have any BAD news that makes us look like incompetent imperialist bad guys?
  4. otis p. driftwood

    otis p. driftwood Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    Messages:
    5,271
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    Best part...British paper quoting the British commander...:D:singing:
  5. Patriot_in_NY

    Patriot_in_NY Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Messages:
    8,525
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    I'll be happier when they pass over the "brink" :D. but yeah........ Very good news indeed. Most who pay attention have known this was occuring nice to see it getting VERY LITTLE, but some press all the same.

    Ditto, for Iraq. We could actually win there too. Not that anyone cares or wants to discuss it anymore. :rolleyes:

    Whether you hate the war or not, this is good news.
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2008
  6. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,672
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    Yea,
    Lets invade Brazil, now...I bet we could win there eventually, too.

    I hear Norway's ripe for the taking, too.

    WTF are we waiting for?
  7. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,672
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

  8. PressCoverage

    PressCoverage Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2005
    Messages:
    8,609
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    Just a month ago, reports were that the Taliban was regaining footholds all over the country, and the "coalition" was losing ground.... Either there's been a dramatic turnaround in recent weeks, or someone's lying.
  9. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    26,814
    Likes Received:
    144
    Ratings:
    +300 / 4 / -2

    Huh, what? I thought we already lost on both fronts? It can't be true.
  10. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    26,814
    Likes Received:
    144
    Ratings:
    +300 / 4 / -2

    ThinkProgressive.
  11. Stokes

    Stokes Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    So in other words you think we should have left Afghanistan alone after 9/11, let the Taliban continue to rule after giving safe haven to AQ to live and set up training camps. There's a big difference between Afghanistan and Brazil or Norway. Heck, there's even a big difference between Afghanistan and Iraq.
  12. Patriot_in_NY

    Patriot_in_NY Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Messages:
    8,525
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    Was it over when the German's bombed PEARL HARBOR??????

    Germans?????

    FORGET IT, HE'S ROLLING :D
  13. PressCoverage

    PressCoverage Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2005
    Messages:
    8,609
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    Witty. Unfortunately, for your sarcastic position, ThinkProgress does nothing more than reference other news outlets and news journals.
  14. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    18,467
    Likes Received:
    139
    Ratings:
    +290 / 0 / -3

    #75 Jersey

    Karzai Interview published today under the title: "'I Wish I Had the Taliban as My Soldiers"

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,557188,00.html

    June 2, 2008

    SPIEGEL: During the Taliban times there were no checkpoints at all.

    Karzai: That was the best aspect of the Taliban. They did a lot wrong, but they also did a few things right. I wish I had the Taliban as my soldiers. I wish they were serving me and not people in Pakistan or others. When we came back to Afghanistan, the international community brought back all those people who had turned away from the Taliban …


    SPIEGEL: … you mean the brutal commanders who fought in the civil war …

    Karzai: … who then became partners with the foreign allies and are still paid by them today for their support. It is not always easy for me to find a way that can enable Afghanistan's administration to function.

    ___________

    Gee, President Karzai, maybe we should then just get out? Karzai is blaming us while saying "Yeah the Taliban had some wrong things, but at least they made the trains run on time".

    Borat Voice: "Grayt Soookcess!"
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2008
  15. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    18,467
    Likes Received:
    139
    Ratings:
    +290 / 0 / -3

    #75 Jersey

    Headline: Western forces to blame for rising violence in Afghanistan: Karzai

    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/06/02/afghanistan.html

    June 2, 2008

    "Afghan President Hamid Karzai puts the blame for rising violence in his country on international forces, saying they have mismanaged the fight against the resurging Taliban..."

    Glad you guys feel all smug and satisfied. However, it looks like the President who is on the ground there isn't as "Mission Accomplished" as you.
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2008
  16. Stokes

    Stokes Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    I'm with you on this one PC, I remember this being a widely reported assessment, not just something from a few left-leaning sites. I sure hope that the assessment is right, but my gut tells me the truth is probably somewhere in between; they're not done, but they're also not gaining significantly in strength.
  17. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    18,467
    Likes Received:
    139
    Ratings:
    +290 / 0 / -3

    #75 Jersey

    BTW, I very strongly believe that Afghanistan IS the theater where we need our forces and where we need to press the REAL fight against Al Qaeda.

    Let's just not yet declare victory because one British Brigadier is holding press conferences.

    MORE US and Allied troops need to be in Afghnistan and we need to severely press Pakistan on the Taliban and Al Qaeda neglect.
  18. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    26,814
    Likes Received:
    144
    Ratings:
    +300 / 4 / -2

    Who declared victory? I think we're simply discussing how the good guys are on the right side of the current score, which is contrary to the doom and gloom, we've lost already, reports most of us have been hearing for years now. I guess when people post we're losing, or have lost, it's ok, but when posting a winning score, that isn't final, it's not. Why are people so upset at good news? BDS has overtaken too many.
  19. otis p. driftwood

    otis p. driftwood Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    Messages:
    5,271
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    Who did, Shmess? Just trying to bring a little good news to the table occasionally.
  20. reflexblue

    reflexblue PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2006
    Messages:
    17,243
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +20 / 3 / -0

    #91 Jersey

    Maybe the Taliban have been put on the run for the moment, but in I wouldn't doubt that in the fall we hear about a resurgence. The Taliban won't be defeated IMO until we keep our promise made in '01 about building up the infrastructure of Afghanistan. I.E. roads, bridges, schools, hospitals etc. In the North thats what the Germans have done, and its pretty quite up there. Also another means of employment needs to be found for the average Joe Afghanie besides making blankets and growing poppy plants. A poor person who has nothing is more susceptible to hard core Taliban religious rule.
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2008

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>