Superbowl Defense? 10 Reasons why that could be

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  1. NEPettyOfficer72

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    In my opinion, I think that NE has made some offseason moves both in free agency and in the draft defensively that I think could make this defense one of the tops in the NFL, and here are my 10 reasons why.

    1) The re-signing of star CB Aqib Talib, proved extremely important last year and changed the entire aspect of the defense, paying dividends for the team down the stretch. And now, he gets to showcase talents from the start instead of midway through the season.

    2) The signing of Adrian Wilson, is underrated and could be huge for not only the secondary but the entire defense as a whole. Rodney Harrison said it best, when Bill made this move that Adrian would bring tenacity and attitude along with physicality to the defense. He is not that old, 33 and still a young man. Players like Brian Dawkins, Rod Woodson, Leroy Butler, Lawyer Milloy, John Lynch and Ronnie Lott were all still playing at a very high level at the age of what Adrian is right now. Additionally, he is not asked to play alot of snaps, which will maximize his impact both on field and on the sidelines, through talent, natural born ability and leadership. When people often think of safeties in the mold of Ed Reed or Troy Polamolu, Adrian Wilson is usually next in line... whether it's playing some linebacker in subpackages, blitzing, stopping the run, coverage or making a big play at the right time to change the outcome of a game, he is always on the other end of it and just had an elite season as recent as 2011.

    3) Devin McCourty at safety is among the best in the NFL, and we could have two all pro safeties starting in our secondary. Whenever you get the chance, look up opposing QB passer ratings when Devin is playing safety as oppose to cornerback and you'll be amazed. His range, and ability to sit back and read the Quarterback is on a very high level, along with his close-in speed and athleticism at that position. Love his sure hands and ball skills as well. Now, he gets to play that position from the start of the season.

    4) The signing of DT/NT/DE Tommy Kelly, who just as recently as 2010 made the pro-bowl is a very good signing. I remember a time where Oakland offered him the highest paying contract of any defensive tackle in NFL history because of his playing expectations. Though he didn't quite live up to that, he is versatile, effective and can get after the passer still. Additionally, he can also play the run and is not asked to play every snap which maximizes his impact and minimizes health issues. It also makes future Hall of Famer Vince Wilfork that much more effective because it keeps him fresh and gives him extra help that's experienced help.

    5) Draft pick OLB/DE Extraordinare Jamie Collins will add pass rushing skills and presence to an already stacked lineup of players that can get after the passer. He is young, fast, athletic and has big play ability. He also has good leverage and played in a complex defensive system. Could have immediate impact and will keep a steady rotation of other players fresh. You now have him, along with Rob Ninkovich, Chandler Jones, Justin Francis, Don'ta Hightower just to name a few who can beat blockers and get sacks.

    6) The signing of those young defensive tackles such as Armstead, Vellano and a few more are known to be versatile, and will give the position needed balance of youth, speed and quickness... And Marcus Forston is from MIA and you know how good players from that school can be (Vince Wilfork, Ed Reed, Clinton Portis, Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin, Sean Taylor, etc). Additionally, Justin Francis is a hybrid who can get pressure from the interior which could help these guys out tremendously. Besides, with the signings of Veteran Tommy Kelly, and those UFA's, the departure of DT's Kyle Love and Brandon Deaderick shouldn't hurt at all.

    7) The new depth at the secondary position with the draft picks will greatly be of help, and could have a steady rotation of efficiency in certain packages. Duron Harmon and Logan Ryans are smart, fundamental and have a lot of potential to be productive and bring much needed value to our secondary, especially learning from a staff such as NE and a coach like Bill Belichick.

    8) Don't underestimate the re-signing of CB Kyle Arrington, who is proven solid at the position and is one of the best NICKEL backs in the league according to some analysts.

    9) Watch out for second year players DE Chandler Jones and LB Don'ta Hightower. Keep in mind that before these guys got hurt, they were well on their way to being DROY candidates, well at least Jones was. Now, they have a chance to remain healthy for an entire year, with a full season under their belt and an offseason to learn. They have all the tools and talent to become superstars, and if they do then watch out. Could you imagine a star Chandler Jones being a double digit sack guy, along with Rob Ninkovich who you know can play well and Jamie Collins also coming off the edge? Wow. Additionally, second year secondary players CB Ras-I Dowling and FS Tavon Wilson showed some promise and if Ras can stay healthy and Tavon becomes better than that also gives the defense two more versatile players with skill in our secondary that looks to be already stacked this year.

    10) Possibility of switching back to a 3-4. This would allow Rob Ninkovich to switch back to OLB. Now lets look at the rotation of Linebackers.. Jerod Mayo, Rob Ninkovich, Brandon Spikes, Don'ta Hightower, Jamie Collins, Dane Fletcher, Jermaine Cunningham and the rookie LB Steve Beauharnais. That's a lot of youth/veteran balance, athleticism, skill and versatility, in addition to smarts.

    With all that being said, the only questions are chemistry, timing and health. Even though I think we have the health issue covered with the depth that we have. And if all that potential that I was talking about plays out then we could have a very good season on that side of the ball.
  2. TruthSeeker

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    Thee potential is definitely there. Hopefully they all mature and gel together. Looking forward to see what Collins adds to this defense.
  3. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. Supporter

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    Potential is always there as a compliment to overt optimism. I've found the reality to be a little above the chicken littles and a little below the homers. If the improvement pushes closer to the homer opinions, 2013 will be an interesting season given Brady's new tools on O.
  4. VrabelJr

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    This defense more or less will thrive or die based on last years draft class (Jones, Hightower, Wilson, Dennard) making making or not making that crucial sophomore step.
  5. Archeryaddict12

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    This team has the potential but we won't know until the season starts. If we can just get maybe a middle of the pack D we could look extremely better in terms of wins against tough teams.
  6. PatsWickedPissah

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    Before the OP's jack me up post I thought I was a major Pats homo. I concede.
    Can't wait for training camp.
  7. EwanSellars

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    i agree that we can be a superbowl defense if Chandler plays up to his potential and is our double digits stats guy and our safety group works out we will have an elite defense
  8. patriot lifer

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    Without injuries, the defense has the individual players to make a strong defense. The key to the team's success is for the whole to be greater than the sum of the parts. There's no shortage of talent on this team. It's a strong front seven and we've loaded up the secondary with talent.

    No matter what, we'll be giving up yards again this year. This team scores too much which leads to opposing teams being more aggressive on offense. And the schedule isn't easy. I'd settle for something similar to our 2010 stats where we were 8 in the NFL in scoring defense and #1 in interceptions.
  9. Elijah

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    3-4 switch is not going to happen. We just cut two of the few DL on the team who could play in a 3-4.
  10. fair catch fryar

    fair catch fryar In the Starting Line-Up

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    At this point, I'll be happy with a good defense.


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    There isn't a team in the 32 that right now doesn't feel like they have a great roster and solid on both sides.

    There's a ton of work ahead to determine the haves and have nots.
  12. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. Supporter

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    Deep down hidden below the macho bravado, I'm sure Rex knows that... the Jets suck. :p
  13. Yehoodi

    Yehoodi Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    I would say that number is closer to 16-20 . . . but that is just me . . .
  14. southieinnc

    southieinnc Rookie

    While I agree with you, I am very excited about our defense this year.
    32 teams think they have it but I'd rather be us!
  15. FCB02062

    FCB02062 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Might want to check your post (last word, first sentence) :eek:
    Unless of course....
  16. supafly

    supafly Supporter Supporter

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    C'mon, Petty72. You can come up with at least 25 reasons as to why this defense is SB bound, and probably at least another 25 as to why the offense is headed in the same direction.

    10 reasons aren't enough. You're letting me down man.
  17. Gumby

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    Not to mention that I think switching to a 3-4 would obviate the 'advantages' the OP said in #4. I dont think TK plays as a 3-4 DE . but we will see.
  18. goheels22002

    goheels22002 Supporter Supporter

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    2012 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics -

    In 2012, the Patriots had a good defense (top 12 statistically) if you look at points allowed, turnovers, run defense.

    The pass defense is what needs improvement. The pass defense gave up a ton of yards, 11th most touchdowns, and 5th most yards per pass attempt by the opponents. Big pass plays killed the Patriots - 7th worst in yards per completion. Only one playoff team was worse than the Patriots - the Texans.

    A slightly better pass rush with the stability of bringing everybody back in the secondary, combined with Adrian Wilson and maybe one of the rookies, could cut down the big plays to a top 15 ranking, this could be a very good defense.
  19. sb1

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    This pass defense will be facing a slate of QBs and offensive weapons that is one of the most difficult IMO in a long time. It will become apparent quickly whether they are or aren't ready for prime time. "Adequate" might not be good enough this year.
  20. lurker1965

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    Um, maybe. We'll see.

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