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    ADP payroll is reporting -10,000 private sector jobs for August.....another triumph for Obama, well at least the SEIU & AFSCME still like him.
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    He promised incentives for companies that produce in America ... I guess China objected.
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    I was gonna post on our friends the Chicoms. They said at a econ meeting in Australia that they wouldn't be increasing their holdings in US Treasury's, not dumping them but not buying. This is very bad for Bammy.
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    ... and if Bammy does things to help our manufacturing while at the same time decreasing theirs ... well then everyone knows the rest. All this spending to keep voters happy only hurts us in the long run. The key to our recovery is to decrease our national debt ... even if it temporarily hurts. When we no longer care what criticism is leveled in our direction we can make decisions that are best for our country - just like everyone else already does.

    Like the Chicoms ... :mad::mad::mad:
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    Really? Do you believe things would be much better right now under a conservative president? The downfall of the American empire has very little to do with partisan agenda.

    I'll be routing for your camp in 2012 so that that guarantee shines bright. Until you change the way money works, you change nothing.
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    It would depend on what policies the 'conservative' president put in place. If it were Steve Forbes ofr example things would be much better, IF IF IF he got to put his policies in place, If Romney not so much, though not as bad as the disaster these stupid policies are creating.
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    The disaster was inevitable, regardless of what policies were put in place. Flat tax policy does nothing for overpopulation and resource shortage that are way out in front of slow-as-molasses technological advances.
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    The industrial countries are suffering from underpopulation due to low birthrates.

    Frbes was also about real entitlement reform not just flat taxes and a sane energy policy, and reducing government spending.
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    "suffering from underpopulation"

    right, ok.
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    Check the demographics of the industriaized countries,

    Demographics are destiny.
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    Demographics? What does any of that have to do with shrinking natural resource supply against exponential population growth? How about just the blurring of our sovereign borders? Do you think 280 million is an accurate depiction of U.S. population?
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    People have been talking about shrinking resources since Malthus, remember Ehrilch predicting mass starvation in the 80's. We have plenty of resources available, the issue is the wrong policies.
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    So your "demographics" tangent has nothing to do with it. Very well.
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    As industrial societies age they economies will decline. In a few years the average in China will be 63. How will they do with the number of elderly people the young will have to care for....


    How will Russia work when they lose 1/2 of their population over a couple of generations.


    Human resources will be the problem not natural resources.
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    Excellent screen name. I was said to see Rome only last 2 seasons.
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    Oh, and of course manufacturing just soared and stocks along with it. Just goes to show that one can't be lazy when trying to understand the economy.
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    Afghanistan is loaded with natural resources ... just wanted to throw that in.
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    Great series, I heard it was too expensive to produce. Deadwood was real good too.
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    the video games where you must produce goods, defend your territory, make humans and all the rest are great examples of how that all works without doing major research. I started playing one to win but went for it too quickly ... then I started applying what I learned in economics in college and I did much better. People forget that humans, our age and our health are all factors in an economy along with our education.

    I know a few people who brought their companies to Mexico and they have now moved back. The labor force was not what they needed let's just say.
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    A movie is in the works. The sets got too expensive for HBO/BBC.

    By the way, a few reactionary members of this forum were convinced I was you. Or you were me. Let's both be flattered and laugh at them.
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