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    On the heels of last week's tragedy in KC Belichick said on Monday that while what transpired hit harder here because of friendships, the incident sent shock waves across the league because every team is dealing with these situations.

    Suggs and his former fiance (and mother of his 2 kids) have been having their own domestic issues and as a result he was ordered to surrender all of his legally owned weaponry. Good idea. You would like to think that what transpired in KC would send a message throughout the league that nothing is worth that. Unfortunately we have seen in other areas that as a group, despited repeated examples, players are often in denial when it comes to their own conduct and situations, on and off the field.

    Terrell Suggs ordered to give up guns in domestic case - NFL.com
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    So he can only beat her with a bat, stab her with a knife, or, strangle her with his arms?

    Seriously, this is *****ing stupid. :mad:
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    yeah.....like, that'll stop him

    who is the idiot making these decisions
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    By that kind of thinking, I guess the insane and violent ex-cons should be permitted to possess firearms?

    I'm firmly in favor of gun rights -- but not unlimited gun rights -- and am probably going to buy my first guns soon, but I don't see anything stupid about removing firearms from situations like this.
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    Guns have one purpose. I hate that purpose.

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    Suggs doesn't need a weapon of any kind. All he has to do is turn the lights on and his face will do the rest.
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    Just pretend that nobody was ever killed before the invention of the handgun, and it will all make sense.... :bricks:
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    So in other words, a quarter of his firearms? :p
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    90% of adults who have committed murder had, prior to that murder, a criminal record as an adult, with an average of 4 committed felonies. A "criminal record", by this analysis, does not include things for which no arrest is made, like a simple traffic ticket. A large majority of those murderers committed their crime with a firearm they had purchased.

    This compares to <10% of the general population who have a criminal record as adults.

    Thus you can very dramatically reduce the gun murder rate by simply denying those individuals who have a conviction of any type from owning any firearm for a defined number of years, adjusted depending upon the crime and on whether it was a repeat offense.

    This presents no constitutional issues, since your own previous actions are what had led you to be denied the opportunity to legally own a gun.

    I know in most states felons are not supposed to be able to buy guns, but there appears to be enough loopholes that such restrictions are currently ineffective
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    The inability to possess a firearm would definitely stop a professional athlete from killing his wife if he so pleased.

    :bricks:
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    Sounds like a really stable situation.
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    Did not use a gun.
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    Knives don't kill people..........

    KNIFE CONTROL - Boston City Council Holds Knife Control Hearing

    One day people will figure out that busybody governments can always gin up another reason for removing freedoms.

    The Next European Fad: Knife Control? | NewsBusters.org

    Sound somewhat familiar?
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    Ban assault soap dispensers.
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    At the very least make Suggs surrender all soap dispensers that he owns. Precautionary measure.
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    If recently history is any indication, they probably won't.
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    You hate self defense? ;)
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    guns don't kill people...people kill people
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    WTF......

    Mods....please get off your arses and move this thread to an appropriate forum.

    Don't mean to sound like a jerk.....but as a LLEA firearms instructor I do know what i'm talking about and I don't come to this forum to discuss politics or firearms....only our beloved Patriots and loathed Jets.....

    Love you all....almost as much as i love the Bumble....
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    So the fact that non-gun violence exists and has always existed means there's no justification for restrictions on gun ownership -- including restrictions that may be temporary (I haven't seen anything about Suggs being banned from ever owning firearms)? :bricks:
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    No, the 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution is supposed to mean that. But that takes this to the political forum, so I'll just leave it at that. Let's get back to the dangers of flying soap.
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    there were gun restrictions before, during and after the adoption of the 2nd amendment so that argument is hard to take seriously.
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    I'm going to wait until Bob Costas comments on the Suggs issue before I figure out what to think.
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    If someone is really insane they should be locked up, end of story.

    If someone paid their debt to soceity then they've PAID their debt to soceity, and shouldnt be treated any different than anyone else, if they're that much of a threat to soceity they should still be locked up.
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    Hope this doesn't follow:

    A police stop-and-search campaign in London last month found that about 5 percent of the 4,200 youths randomly checked were carrying knives.

    Read more: The Next European Fad: Knife Control? | NewsBusters.org

    4200 Random searches in a month in one city, 140 a day. England has another problem.
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    We're already there, too:

    USATODAY.com - Appeals court upholds random NYC subway searches

    New York City: random searches for public school students
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    "NEW YORK (AP) — A federal appeals court has upheld the constitutionality of random bag searches by police in America's busiest subway system to prevent terrorism.

    The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday rejected a challenge to the searches by the New York Civil Liberties Union, saying that a lower court judge properly concluded that the program put in place in July 2005 was "reasonably effective." "

    Orwellian term. What did the NYPD show the judge for him/her to conclude that?

    One bomb in every 100 bags? Every 1000? No bombs, but they think they scared off some terrorists?
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    The 2nd amendment is far less clear than you're pretending it is.
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    No, it's not. the language is plain and clear. But going down that trail would take this to the political forum.
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    Let's not go as far as insane, then -- somebody with a mental illness or handicap that doesn't warrant being institutionalized.

    re. the latter, somebody can do their time and remain a threat -- I think that's quite clear. But if you believe that a violent past shouldn't be a possible rationale to deny gun ownership, you're at least consistent in your pov here.

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