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Substitute Teacher shows "Brokeback" to 12 year olds!!

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    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/5/14/90143.shtml?s=ic

    I can't see how anyone would think this is appropriate viewing for 12 year olds. I admit that I have not watched this movie, but the reviews from Mrs FTW were that the "love" scenes were very graphic and violent and certainly not fit for 12 year olds (hence the R rating).

    Once again more proof that the government school system is very "broken" (pun intended).
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    From the link:

    Telling your kid to just run away if they ever hear words to that effect really ought to be on the first page of the Parenting 101 textbook. How it the world does somebody like that get a Master's Degree and a teaching certificate?
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    That's $#%@'d up.
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    Mrs. Buford needs to be let go and move on to another profession, what I find interesting is how it is polarized as a liberal vs. conservative issue in the blogs, while it is just an idiotic move by someone who should not be teaching or around kids. This is underreported on both sides of the aisle.
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    This teacher would be idiotic if the characters in the story were heterosexual, too. Sex scenes in a movie for a 12 year-old are insane. There must have been some PC agenda at work. And what teacher shows a Hollywood movie in class? Maybe a little more effort as far as the teaching thing goes, huh? Stupid, abusive, and lazy is no way to go through life.
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    The movie is quite sensitively done. I don't think it was graphic at all and there's maybe one scene that an adult would perceive as sexual. It's really a story about love that can't be realized; therein is its power. But, that said, I think any 12 year old would have found it tedious and dull, and I doubt if they would have even understood what the film was about. They would have seen it as an incredibly dull cowboy movie.
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    :rofl:

    Sure, they'd only see it as a cowboy movie.
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    I guess I had seen some 'after school special' shizzz about homosexuality in the 8th grade, it goes along with sex education. I see no problem with showing kids that are entering the puberty/hormonal stage of life that something like this needs to be broght up and discussed. Being gay is not a choice, its genetic. Stop being afraid of gay people, they are human beings.
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    The "R" rating & 12 years olds has nothing to do with our sentiment. Maybe we should show Scarface to that same class as a tool to exhibit the effects of immigration on our nation. I'm sure the 12 year olds would only see it as a cops and robbers movie. :D
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    Only goes to show that every possible opinion, no matter how befuddling, is represented on the internet.
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    You are totally friggin clueless on this matter, Patters.
    You know I don't give a flying fu-k about the sexual preference of anyone. I do care about the innocence kids get to enjoy and we, as adults, should do all we can to preserve it as long as we can. Teenage years and adulthood are difficult enough- no need to rush it. Movies like this - that is, ANY R-rated movie - is out of bounds for a 12 year-old...PERIOD.

    And Holy Diver, this has nothing to do with homosexuality, IMO. It has to do with foolish behavior of a teacher who should be fired. If a parent wants to watch an R-rated movie, that's one thing, and they'll suffer the consequences, but this is not the realm of the classroom of a 7th grade teacher.
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    #24 Jersey

    Regardless of my feelings on people who are gay, it should not be in schools. I don't want schools to be pro gay or anti gay - it's none of their f*cking business. English, Math, Science, History. Thank you very much I will take the rest from there.
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    somehow treating gay people as human beings is befuddling to you?

    great, I'm excited for the future.
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    I see your point on the teacher overstepping her bounds, makes sense to me.
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    This thread is about a teacher showing a specific movie in a middle school class, not gay rights. There's a happy middle ground: treat gay people as human beings but don't show Brokeback Mountain to 12 year olds.
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    I tried to keep the gay thing out of this, because it really had nothing to do with what I thought was the inappropriatness (I think I just made up a new word, somebody check with Webster) of the teacher's actions.

    I used to be a 7th grade teacher, and I would have never shown a movie in class, first off, most classes are 50 minutes or so, and secondly it is hard to justify as education. (Sadly many kids are shown movies weekly in lieu of getting an actual education these days).

    I distinctly remember having to watch the entire "Roots" mini-series in Jr high, and they did send out permission slips for it. But you are heading down a slippery slope when you leave the eductation of your children to the Hollywood elites who take giant leaps away from the truth in movies they claims are "based on real events".
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    You're disagreeing with the (in)tolerant on this board. You're a homophobe, face it. :p
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    Call him a homophobe. He likes to label other people as such. :D
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    A point to consider is that this was an 8th grade class. Aren't those generally inhabited by 14 year olds? I seem to recall the plan back in my day was to graduate (grade 12) at age 18. Dial that back 4 grades to grade 8 and you get 14, not 12. So unless that's changed and America now graduates 16 year olds from High School I think the context is a bit different. I know I though of little else than sex at age 14 and so did about all of my male classmates. All I can say for sure about the females was that they most definitely weren't thinking about sex with me:D
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    "Hi Ho Silver", "Gettum Up Scout", "we'll head them off at the pass Tonto" "Ugh"
    :bricks:
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    Understood...

    agreed.
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    hahahahaha. Right on.

    What those kids need is something they can relate to, something, well, you know.... more EXCITING :rocker:



    Okay, enough silliness :D. As some who've already pointed it out. The movie is really irrelevant to me. I'd be just as annoyed if they'd shown Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List (two outstanding, but with an educationally redeeming quality) without parental notification or permission. Fact is, the R rating should indicate that the parents SHOULD have some control over things like this. This is a classic moronic move by an INDIVIDUAL idiot that will be dealt with at the school level. $500,000 does seem like a lot of damage though, huh.... :cool:

    Also, WTF is with showing movies in school all the time. The lazy F'ers get paid to educate, not press play on a DVD. I notice this trend happening alot. My kids seem to get to "watch" a movie every other week or so. Perhaps I'm old school, but it's seems to be the lazy way out.
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    #24 Jersey

    The kids would just laugh their asses off anyway. Unless the kids I know are different, this "new acceptance" of gays is just a media creation. From my small sampling, there's little difference in opinion now compared to what I saw in the '80s.
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    That was GREAT! My wife loved it too...and so did my eight year-old!:rofl: :eat3: We let her drink booze and smoke weed, too. The four year-old, now that's where we draw the line! We're not bad parent's, you know.
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    Well, if that school were in the North End, or in Eas'Boson, they'd have shown the kids something a tad different.


    Of course, when I went to school, they taught us by showing the Flintstones.
    :D
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    Its "understandable that they attacked the World Trade Center" and "Brokeback Mountain" is ok to show 12 year olds. Gotcha:rolleyes:
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    This must be tough for all the righties.. they hate gays and hate frivolous law suits.. but they love this thread and paint is a leftie.. it is nothing more than really crappy judgement, by someone who was essentially acting in loco parentis in a school system. Someone who was left unattended and unsupervised for over 2 hours.. someone who should never be in the class room alone or around kids in any setting ... despite the content anything rated R should never be shown to kids without parental permission or in a setting for kids that is funded by our tax dollars.
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    I guess if you want to base "acceptance" on a middle-school schoolyard.
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    If you can do it,
    Send your child to a Private School or Home School them, America's Government Schools are no longer safe for your children, Socialist Communistic Left Wing Bastards have INVADED the country's public schools and most of the country's Colleges.

    If any of the Politically Correct Moonbat Cement Head Liberals don't think this teacher was trying to PUSH the Homosexual Agenda then why the hell did the teacher choose Brokeback Mt to show them, if the teacher wanted to show them a "Cowboy Movie" what's wrong with Roy Rogers or John Wayne, this in your face arrogant scumbag was pushing Homosexuality on little kids that went to school that day to learn how to read and write.

    It is because of people like this teacher that turn Straights against Homosexuals people like this teacher do far more damage to the "Homosexual Cause" than the street corner Homophobe could ever do.

    Question your child every day about what goes on in your public school because they are being "brainwashed".
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    #24 Jersey

    No, I'm talked about the "kids" we've hired out of college over the past few years. A few times I've referenced how kids in school today are more accepting of gays and they look at me funny because where they went to school it's not true. Small sample size but all the polls, etc, tend to have significant questions about how they're taken so I take what I hear from an actual person eye to eye as more legitimite.

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