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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    Umm . . . if you're arguing that the Pats will have trouble winning more than 11 games, then:

    (A) you're already assuming the Pats are probably going to lose to San Diego anyways, so what difference would not having Belichick make?

    (B) aren't you're also arguing that the JEST (or, even more improbably, the Bills or Dolphins) can do better in their 12 games against common opponents than the Patriots can?

    About the only difference a suspension would have made is whether or not the Pats have a first-round bye, not whether they make the playoffs or not.
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    Thats why we lose a first round pick if we make the playoffs. Goodell pretty much knows that. How he doesn't makes me wonder? Did he forget how pathetic the rest of the division is?
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    Isn't the title of this thread redundant?
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    No Jersey Selected

    Yes,

    perhaps Mr. peabody could use the WayBack Machine to step back in time and rewrite his column. Or maybe find a Proctologist to help unstick his head.....
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    If the Pats are so good, why cheat???
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    Man...the media isn't even trying to pretend that this is about "punishment for breaking the rules". They just don't want to see the Pats make the playoffs and win the SB. These guys are sad....
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    "Expect the Competition Committee to receive approval on using radio communication systems for defensive players. That eliminates the need for hand signals unless the equipment breaks down. The systems will cost owners several hundred thousand dollars. The last vote for the system failed by three votes. For what it's worth, Belichick voted against using radio communication on defense."

    What a disgrace of a man. You guys got off easy. At least your 3 super bowls will now have a big asterisk next to them.

    Wonder how you'll fare without cheating from now on. You may beat lesser teams but know this, when you face the Colts in Indy you'll realize how much harder we are to beat when you're not cheating. Brace yourselves.
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    If you're this bored you should seriously think about taking up a hobby, like knitting or GFY.
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    Where'd Sean Salisbury go? At least someone was being supportive over at ESPN...now everything is quite negative.
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    Look at the Patriots schedule and tell me for sure they aren't going to win more than 11 games.... Yea I could see them losing 4 or maybe even five games on their schedule but I don't see any of the games on their schedule as a sure lose. and I could almost as easily see them only losing 1-2 games.

    What's funny is Clayton still has the Patriots as his SB team but for some reason he thinks their only going to win 11 games?
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    These are all good points on this thread, but the thing is, Clayton reminds me of those bobbleheads. You know, great for the short attention span theatre crowd, but it's entertainment value wears off almost as soon as you've seen it.
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    Well, because they don't cheat! And yes, they are good.
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    Really? Then I guess Goodell just needed to pimp his ride and the Pats just happen to be the unlucky victims.
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    So, you're saying the Pats aren't good, and now that they can't cheat, they'll lose and also not win the Super Bowl this year? Is that you're argument?

    What will you say if they win the Super Bowl?
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    Once we win our 4th, him and the rest of the Wallyworld Doofin fans crawl back into the closest Sea World and hang with Flipper.
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    I'm braced!! Wish we played the Colts this weekend. Mm-m-m. GOD, I wish is was this Sunday!! But, that's OK. We got the Chargers. I'm looking forward to them.

    You want to see how this team feels about being regarded as "cheaters"?? Tune in Sunday.



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    We don;t need to convince anybody, just like the Packers (gambling scandal), Steelers(Sterioids), and 49'ers and Broncos(Cap cheaters) did not have to.

    They are all viewed as dynasties, and so are we ! Take it to bank - staight cash homey :D
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    hmmm success makes athletes lazy.........ok. let me just focus on the past 15 yrs for the #84 genious

    1. Jordan and Bulls - 6 in 8
    2. Shaq + Kobe Lakers of 90's - 3 straight
    3. Pats - 3 in 6
    4. Tiger........What a lazy athlete he is, just can't seem to win much
    5. Roger Federer........um yep. another hasbeen who can't do much
    6. Yankees of late 90's - 4 in 5.......yep lazy bones like Jeter, O'Neill
    7. Jersey Devils + Red Wings - yep, another bunch of overpaid successful lazy hockey players who've only managed to win 6 of last 12 Stanley Cups


    Care to respond ?
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    Change "cheat" to "vidoetape" and that is the question that has all Pats fans scratching their heads.

    All teams steal signals. The Dolphins admitted it last year. The question is not cheating, it is videotaping.

    The Pats are good. So why the videotaping? I dunno.
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    Technically, they didn't cheat! Nowhere in the Comissioners ruling did he say they cheated. Goddell did state the Patriots DID NOT receive a competitive advantage!

    It is legal to video tape opposing coaches as long as its not within the confines of the team coaching area. They can do it from the stands, from a luxury box, they could do an audio tape (sound familiar Dolphins Fans) describing the sognals and down and distance.

    Zach Thomas admitted the Dolphins had ana audio / video of all of Brady's audibles.

    This ruling is hypocritical and the league is trying to use Belicheck and the Patriots as an example.
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    For the same reason every other team steal signs. How many times does that have to that have to be pointed out to you?
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    I suppose it is better to be good enough not to cheat than to need to cheat to be good. :rolleyes:
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    #61 Jersey

    Since you're such a clueless cretin, why post???
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    BTW, this whole suspension thing is ridiculous. How in God's name is BB absence for a handful of games worse than the loss of a guy like Mankins or Maroney or Watson forever.
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    I live in Indy and proudly support the Patriots. This isn't going to change anything. You guys have beat us 3 straight yet still live under this black cloud of insecurity that we still own you. So I guess that means we do. I guess it goes to show that in sports, hatred is the highest form of flattery.
    So go on down to the Blue Crew and suck down a few and get yourself prepared for Nov. 4.
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    Troll Boy, Didn't you guys win the Championship last year on 3 bad calls that were so perverse that the announcers were stunned? Didn't Peyton HAVE to win a Super Bowl, and with a little help, did? Do you think in your wildest dreams that those calls would have went against your Colts if it was the other way around?
    Talk about Cheaters, why is Bill Pollian who is on the competition committee, or should I say "Colts Committee", allowed to change the rules of the game which is the biggest conflict of interest in the history of the NFL, to favor the Baltimore Colts? So there is no more "muggings"? I have seen people be thrown in jail for less than your rookie CB did with three minutes to go.

    Hey we are not the Colts. We don't expect everyone else including the officials under Billy Ps' reign, to pity us as they do some teams and players, as evidence to what you see and here lately. Gee.....Ya tink da Colts ever stole signals? Probably didn't have to. Bill P probably demanded them from the competition "Colts" committee and his stooge Fisher (he of the laughter as his player tries to maim another opposing player for life) said....."o.k. Billy boy but you better check with Peyton first if he's not doing another commercial, to see if we got enough film. If not I'll check with Sabol".
    If you want to put asterisks on a tainted SB, knock yourself out .
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    What's with this "cheat" *****? Did the commisioner (or, the "commish", as you like to refer to him) say they cheated??? We just want you to show us where the "commish" said such a thing. We don't really care about your opinion. You've amply demonstrated over the years that your "opinion" on these Patriot-related matters are about as valuable a commodity as your 13-year collection of belly button lint.

    And the blue highlighted section above? That's rich, coming from the likes of you. Your boys have already shown the world they can't win without "cheating".

    Take care of that glass house, eh?
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    Let's be honest, BB could be dragged into Times Square and be given 100 lashes with a bull whip by Goodell and it wouldn't be enough for viruses with shoes like Clayton, Bayless and Florio. Slime balls every one of them.
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    Funny that, coming from the Phins who were guilty of signal stealing against the Pats last year. Get a life dude. Enjoy throwing rocks from a glass house much?

    Clayton has been a douche for a long time, even before this incident. I disregard most of what he says anyways.
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    I just read the title of this thread and thought, "isn't that satus quo. You would have to post a lot less stuff if the header was 'Intelligence from John Clayton'"

    He is a blithering idiot. I find it pathetic that he was recently awarded some honor. You will not find a guy who contributes less to the fans experience than John Clayton. His honoring is really nothing more that media people stroking each other and reveling in their own self-importance.
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