Welcome to PatsFans.com

Strength of Schedule for Playoff Teams

Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by WeezyFbaby, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. WeezyFbaby

    WeezyFbaby On the Game Day Roster

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    333
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +3 / 1 / -0

    Just for fun was bored at work, put together the total win loss of every playoffs opposing schedule:

    Seattle 125-130-1
    Carolina 126-129-1
    Philly 115-139-2
    GB 115-139-2
    SF 126-129-1
    NO – 132-124

    Denver 120-136
    Ne England 121-135
    Cincy – 122-133-1
    Indy 124 – 131
    KC 107 – 149
    SD 127 – 129


    Pretty crazy that NO played the toughest schedule despite ATL and Tbay being in their div. Also would put the Pats 8th for most difficult. Crazy how easy KC GB and Philly had it this year in terms of opponents.

    Just a fun little break down! Enjoy!
     
  2. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    21,712
    Likes Received:
    227
    Ratings:
    +681 / 53 / -21

    So, New Orleans is the only team whose opponents won more game than they lost.

     
  3. SalemPats

    SalemPats In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2013
    Messages:
    2,055
    Likes Received:
    109
    Ratings:
    +339 / 38 / -21

    No Jersey Selected

    Wow, great stat. Do you have one of how these teams did against teams over .500
     
  4. WeezyFbaby

    WeezyFbaby On the Game Day Roster

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    333
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +3 / 1 / -0

    Give me a little time and ill post it just need to crunch the numbers
     
  5. Palm Beach Pats Fan

    Palm Beach Pats Fan In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2008
    Messages:
    3,582
    Likes Received:
    84
    Ratings:
    +292 / 0 / -1

    #12 Jersey

    You should use the record of your opponents only in the games other than the ones in which they played you. In other words, your schedule shouldn't be judged weaker because of your own victories.

    Jeff Sagarin's computer rankings are pretty sophisticated, taking into account the opponent's overall record, where the game was played, their record at the time of the game, their performance soon before and soon after you played them, margin of victory, etc.

    He ranks NFL teams and also gives his own SOS measurement.

    Toughest schedules, ranked easiest to hardest, remaining teams
    New England #25
    Denver #21
    San Diego #16
    Carolina #13
    Indianapolis #12
    San Francisco #9
    New Orleans #8
    Seattle #7

    (please don't shoot the messenger)


    USA Today | Sports | NFL

    This year we have not been faring too well in his rankings. Most years we do. Probably the eeking out of so many close games against some so-so opponents is a factor
     
  6. SalemPats

    SalemPats In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2013
    Messages:
    2,055
    Likes Received:
    109
    Ratings:
    +339 / 38 / -21

    No Jersey Selected

    key Wins: Saints, Denver, Ravens, Steelers
    Key Losses: Bengals, Panthers

    I think we did pretty good against top teams. We stole the Saints game, but had the Panthers game stolen from us
     
  7. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    5,612
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +14 / 0 / -0

    I took a look at the AFC Wests's record against non division opponents with a winning record:

    Denver 1-2
    KC: 1-2
    SD: 2-1
    Oak: 0-2

    3 of the 4 wins were against the Eagles early in the season.
     
  8. WeezyFbaby

    WeezyFbaby On the Game Day Roster

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    333
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +3 / 1 / -0

    So i did the totals for opponents with a .500 or better record.

    Denver 6-3
    NE 6-4
    Cin 6-4
    Indy 4-4
    KC 2-5
    SD 6-3

    Seattle 4-3
    Carolina 5-3
    Philly 4-4
    GB 3-5
    SF 4-4
    NO 6-4


    I know none of this is exact science or complex formulas but kind of cool nonetheless.

    Thanks for the link Palm Beach Fan obviously alot more complex than mine haha!!
     
  9. tatepatsfan

    tatepatsfan Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    852
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    #75 Jersey

    What I find most interesting is how well San Diego did against teams that went .500 or better: 6-3, but more remarkably, how poorly they did against "bad" teams: 3-4.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
  10. jmt57

    jmt57 Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,605
    Likes Received:
    272
    Ratings:
    +812 / 1 / -3

    Quality Wins by each remaining playoff team, as well as losses to teams that are .500 or better; all lowercase and italics denotes a .500 8-8 team.

    Seattle (H): 49ers, Saints
    Seattle (A): Carolina, Arizona
    Losses: at Indy, at SF, vs Arizona

    Carolina (H): Patriots, jets, Saints
    Carolina (A): SF, miami
    Losses: vs Seattle, at Arizona, at NO

    San Fran (H): Green Bay, Arizona, Seattle
    San Fran (A): Arizona
    Losses: at Seattle, at Indy, Carolina, at NO

    New Orleans (H): Arizona, miami, dallas, SF, Carolina
    New Orleans (A): chicago
    Losses: at Patriots, at jets, at Seattle, at Carolina


    Denver (H): ravens, Philly, KC
    Denver (A): dallas, SD, KC
    Losses: at Colts, at Patriots, vs San Diego

    Patriots (H): jets, Saints, miami, steelers, Denver
    Patriots (A): baltimore
    Losses: at Cincy, at jets, at Carolina, at miami

    Colts (H): Seattle, Denver
    Colts (A): San Fran, KC
    Losses: vs miami, at San Diego, at Arizona, at Cincinnati

    San Diego (H): dallas, Colts, Kansas City
    San Diego (A): Philly, Kansas City, Denver
    Losses: vs Denver, at miami, vs Cincinnati



    Records versus teams .500 or better:
    6-4 -- New Orleans
    5-3 -- Carolina
    4-3 -- Seattle
    4-4 -- San Francisco

    6-3 -- San Diego
    6-3 -- Denver
    6-4 -- New England
    4-4 -- Indianapolis
     
  11. jmt57

    jmt57 Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,605
    Likes Received:
    272
    Ratings:
    +812 / 1 / -3

    Taking it one step further: looking at this weekend's game strictly from the perspective of who those teams fared at home or on the road, as the case may be:

    Full Record: Indianapolis Colts (11-5) at New England Patriots (12-4)
    H/A Record: Colts (5-3) at Patriots (8-0)
    H/A vs .500+: Colts (2-3) at Patriots (5-0)


    Full Record: San Diego Chargers (9-7) at Denver Broncos (13-3)
    H/A Record: Chargers (4-4) at Broncos (7-1)
    H/A vs .500+: Chargers (3-1) at Broncos (3-1)


    Full Record: San Francisco 49ers (12-4) at Carolina Panthers (12-4)
    H/A Record: Niners (6-2) at Panthers (7-1)
    H/A vs .500+: Niners (1-2) at Panthers (3-1)


    Full Record: New Orleans Saints (11-5) at Seattle Seahawks (13-3)
    H/A Record: Saints (3-5) at Seahawks (7-1)
    H/A vs .500+: Saints (1-4) at Seahawks (2-1)
     
  12. captain stone

    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Messages:
    9,196
    Likes Received:
    126
    Ratings:
    +383 / 69 / -51

    No Jersey Selected

    The first thing I noticed is KC's & GB's poor record vs good teams. Kinda shows that
    they weren't really that good after all.
     
  13. Triumph

    Triumph Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2004
    Messages:
    6,897
    Likes Received:
    146
    Ratings:
    +472 / 65 / -35

    #32 Jersey

    I think that Football Outsiders does a better job on strength of scheduled because they break out defense vs offense and offense vs defense. Some teams have outstanding defenses, but struggle on offense. The 2012 AZ Cards was a prime example. The same with a high scoring offense, but a defense that cant hold a lead.

    The Pats played some good defenses in 2013. 8th in strength of schedule compared to Denvers 30th ranked schedule. FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS

    The Pats played some bad offenses too. Baltimore, Houston, NJ x 2, Bluffalo x 2, Tampa, Miami x 2. Cincinnati really did not set the woods on fire offensively.
    FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2013 DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
     
  14. 1960Pats

    1960Pats 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2012
    Messages:
    1,894
    Likes Received:
    148
    Ratings:
    +432 / 33 / -33

    #75 Jersey

    I came up with my own SOS and Power Rankings. I also added in the record of all playoff teams vs all the other playoff teams, including round 1;

    AFC - PR - SOS - W-L
    Denver - 1 - 21 - 4-3
    NE Pats - 5 - 24 - 2-2
    Cincy - 7 - 27 - 4-1
    Indy - 9 - 14 - 5-2
    KC - 10 - 32 - 1-6
    SD - 12 - 22 - 6-2

    NFC - PR - SOS - W-L
    Seattle - 2 - 13 - 2-3
    San Fran - 3 - 17 - 3-4
    Carolina - 4 - 11 - 3-2
    Saints - 6 - 4 - 3-3
    Philly - 11 - 31 - 1-4
    GB - 18 - 30 - 0-4
     
  15. Gronkandez

    Gronkandez 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,558
    Likes Received:
    25
    Ratings:
    +120 / 11 / -7

    GB was playing with Matt Flynn and some other backup for much of the year. Both teams were absolutely good this year. KC would still be alive if they didn't lose serveral guys to injury (namely Jamal Charles, their best offensive weapon).
     
  16. moosekill

    moosekill Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    24
    Ratings:
    +90 / 4 / -2

    Or perhaps KC wasn't that good and neither were the Colts?
     
  17. BlueThunder

    BlueThunder PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    33
    Ratings:
    +114 / 0 / -3

    #24 Jersey

    If ANY team has a reason to play the injury card...it's the Pats !


    Next Man Up ! :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:
     
  18. captain stone

    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Messages:
    9,196
    Likes Received:
    126
    Ratings:
    +383 / 69 / -51

    No Jersey Selected

    KC would still be alive if they didn't have Walrus Byatch Andy Reid as their HC.
     

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>