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    Just out of curiousity, do you ever actually read anything or do you rely almost solely on vidiot?
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    Sting isn't even a real American, so who cares what he thinks. The guy is from Europe, so it figures. The only thing that matters is what mainstream Americans want.
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    Did String say he was a "real American?" Did he even say he was a fake American? I don't think Sting has ever portrayed himself as anything but what he is.

    Sometimes people DO care what people from other countries think - even Americans, hard as that may be to believe.

    Sting wasn't taking about BIG AMERICAN GOVERNMENT anyhow. He was talking about all governments of all nations.

    Some of mainstream America agrees with him.
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    And I don't want BIG government. Unfortunately for Sting (or maybe myself), I'm about as qualified as he is to get up on a stage with a microphone attached to my person and give my political opinion...
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    Who cares what a wrestler has to say, why don't we ask Hulk Hogan what he thinks of immigration.:cool:

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    Actually, you won't be about "as qualified" as Sting until you've spent 21 years, raised $25,000,000.00 and seen 85% of that 25 million go to projects for native land rights and forest preservation.

    Then you get the microphone.
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    So all of the sudden Sting is a political science major because he had a successful singing career (if you can even call it that) and can get the attention of a greater portion of the world than I can? Interesting logic.
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    Typical Hollywood moonbats. Do as I say, not as I do. Of course they want Big Government. They themselves won't personally make the necessary sacrafices they preach, so they want the gubmit to impose those sacrafices on everyone else for them. Plus, what do they care about the costs associated with gubmit mandates, and oppressive regulation. They're zillionaires with 7 houses to shuttle between. Oh, and those eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil businesses need to be more responsible, while Sting parades an entourage of 750 people around the world, for his tour. Yet when asked about it, this dimented duo says "He has a 750-person crew to bring around the world and it is a difficult challenge." Riiiiight. For him, it's ok to act selfishly in order to maximize profit. Afterall,it's a difficult challenge. For everyone else though....:rolleyes:

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    No, that's not what I said at all. What part of

    Actually, you won't be about "as qualified" as Sting until you've spent 21 years, raised $25,000,000.00 and seen 85% of that 25 million go to projects for native land rights and forest preservation.

    are you having trouble understanding? It has nothing to do with his singing career and everything to do with The RainForest Foundation Fund.

    Rainforest Foundation Fund - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    You've got to be kidding me with this. Let me just start by saying that I agree with the particular fund that he's raised money for. There is nothing wrong with protecting the environment. However, Sting is only able to raise that amount of money for them because of his status of a celebrity. Therefore, stating that I can only be "as qualified" as Sting is until I raise that amount of money is thoroughly illogical. I'm a normal everyday Joe who couldn't get even a quarter of the attention that Sting does for whatever charity even if I tried. Furthermore, how does raising millions of dollars for a charity make Sting qualified to talk about the state of the U.S. government and, even worse, what type of government would be better for Americans?
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    You lose right away when you attack the person and leave the idea alone. Who cares where Sting gets his mail delivered and who cares that he's paid more taxes and generated more economic activity here in the USA than all of us combined x 1000. Neither are important.
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    Did you even listen to the video????? He says absolutely NOTHING about the American government in specific - in fact, when questioned, he says, "ALL BIG GOVERNMENTS." I presume he was talking about his own government - as well as the governments in ALL nations.

    Maybe you better go listen again. Sting distinctly says, "only GOVERNMENTS can solve it" and then goes on to repeat it again a few seconds later, "only BIG GOVERNMENTS can do what the little people, the individual, cannot do." Trudie then speaks of her experience speaking to a gathering of UN members earlier this year before the talks in Copenhagen and she distinctly says, "We were crushed when not one government leader who came forth and spoke up," and then says " we need global accord between all nations."

    Not American government - ALL GOVERNMENTS. With an "S." "S" means plural - more than one.

    Got that? When there's a "S" at the end of a word it means multiple.
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    1. We seem wrapped around the axle about whether Sting is qualified to comment on the environment.

    2. Ronald Reagan, a professional actor, never had any business running California in the 60s, nor America in the 80s. Yet he did.

    3. Charlton Heston, another actor, spoke far and wide on his pro-gun views for years.

    4. In 08 this forum was all psyched that an "every day hockey-mom" was the purest distillation of "common sense" in politics.

    5. Shortly thereafter this forum was full of ballwashers for Joe [sic] the Plumber [sic]. I am fairly certain he's a few steps away from his PhD.

    6. What Sting, like Charleston Heston, does have, is a marketable name. Marketable names get to say stuff about issues. That's life. Tim Tebow's views on abortion are also unimportant. Yet there they are.

    7. As to the notion that the only thing that matters is what "mainstream Americans think", we have two obvious problems:

    a) 95% of the world is not American, and the impact of global climate issues, as you may guess, affects them even though they are not American, and

    b) The statement begs the question as to what the "American mainstream" thinks.

    Carry on.

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    The thing Sting isn't qualified to comment upon is the very subject of this thread which is NOT the environment...it's big gov't.

    Who cares what a billionaire, psuedo-American says he wants?

    What matters is what the average Jane & Joe want...i.e. Real Mainstream Americans who determine the outcome of elections.
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    But the very point of the interview wasn't about big government - it was about the environment. Government, big or little, was a tangent as a means to the end. Sting was simply stating that if there was any hope for getting laws passed which protect the environment it would have to come from the global governments. It had nothing to do with Americans in specific, either.
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    Well, I wasn't able to watch the video yesterday due to the fact that I was in the library for most of the day and did not have earbuds to plug into my notebook to listen to it. I was finally able to watch it today. First off, if I didn't know any better I would say that Sting is on some sort of upper. Second, you seem to be dodging things here. You're right. Sting doesn't say anything about big government in America. However, he does go ahead and make a point about how he believes that big governments everywhere would be better for his cause when it comes to the rainforest and the rights of the indigenous people living there. So, one can logically deduce that Sting believes that big government is better, not only for the people of the rainforest, but for people all over the world. This includes America. So now, I pose this question to you again...

    How does raising millions of dollars for a charity make Sting qualified to talk about the state of any government around the world?

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