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    :( For a 22 year old UDFA he showed flashes, but ultimately got burnt too many times.
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    Had high hopes for him after last year. To me, he was our best at sticking to the receiver.
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    And so a swap of Carpenter for Rivera as well.
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    rivera is so terrible. why on earth do they keep wasting roster space on him :bricks:
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    more interesting (or maybe not) was their working out of multiple kickers/punters


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    Two horrible roster moves...
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    Thanks for sticking that hand in last Jan Sterling.

    Best of luck in the future.
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    Bad move.


    Why waive someone who has been in the system a couple years now and has made a few plays?

    They bring in someone unproven who is going to need time to learn the system, and then another LB in our already loaded LB corps? The LB is never going to see the field.


    Sterling Moore mustve done something really really wrong behind the scenes.
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    The BB Head Scratch strikes again...........yowzah

    Mike Rivera, ok now, allrighty then.............
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    Martin was with the team in preseason.

    He was waived because he sucks. It's pretty easy to understand. Bill isn't trying to confuse us every time he makes a move.
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    Knowing the system doesnt mean much if you can't cover anyone.
    Rivera is here for special teams.
    This all makes perfect sense.
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    Silvestro released from the PS
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    And one of them beeing the guy who helped us going to the super bowl, Billy Cundiff.
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    He's not good.
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    This is a great sign. Martin was on the Packers in 2010 and the Giants last year. Obviously he is attempting to collect championship rings from as many teams as possible.

    This looks to be addition by subtraction. Martin may not see much play in the regular defense, but Moore was a big play waiting to happen...and not in a good way. Just need the players on the team to get/stay healthy so that Arrington can be limited in his snaps.
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    The fact that Silvestro was also released from Practice Squad makes me thing we're either gonna sign one of our work out players or demote someone (like Malcolm Williams).

    In any case, on the active roster, we released CB Sterling Moore and LB Bobby Carpenter for CB Derrick Martin and LB Mike Rivera.

    One thing to note about both players is that both are viewed in the mold of primary Special Teamers. Where both Sterling and Bobby offered actual depth in case of injury / need, Martin and Rivera offer little to none.

    Relating to Martin and the CB position, this makes me think that the Pats will move McCourty back to CB now that Chung and Gregory are healthy. Our top 4 CBs will be McCourty, Dennard, Arrington, and Cole. Martin will be ST and emergency fill in.

    At LB, Carpenter was viewed as depth for Hightower. Now that he is healthy, he was no longer needed.

    I expect more refinement to come now that these moves have been made.
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    I knew he was bad, but admittedly not THIS bad. Wow. Especially considering Cole has a hammy and those can be very tricky. When Arrington and a complete unproven like Derrick Martin are better options that says alot.
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    I thought Moore was darn good in 2011, even before the Evans play. So if he really is having a terrible year, another example of our DB coaches ruining guys.
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    No, it's an example of you misjudging a player. Moore's never been good.
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    He's more than serviceable as a Nickel or Dime back. Although, I think FS is more of what he would shine at in the NFL judging by the system he played at in college at Southern Methodist.
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    If Moore got cut because he sucks, then why is Arrington still here?
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    He's not serviceable as a nickel. He's not serviceable as a dime. He's not serviceable as a safety.
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    You know nothing other than negativity.

    Carry on.
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    Neither Carpenter nor Moore are PS eligible, and they had 2 PS spots open before cutting Silvestro, so they're making lots of room for...practice squadders.
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    Best question asked all day. Arrington is trash.
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    Yes, that's what it is. I'm down on Sterling Moore's play only because I'm all about negativity. It's not because he's not good, or anything radical like that. BB really cut him just because he knows that there's another team out there that wants to offer him a 10 year, $200 million dollar fully guaranteed contract and the Patriots can't match it even though they want to, so BB's cutting him loose as a favor to one of the greatest football players ever to grace the fields of the NFL.
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    I have a few theories on the backend roster moves they make like no other team does:
    1. Performance based release - really didn't see anything obvious with Moore
    2. Attitude statement - How hard was the guy working, is he really committed ( I'm grasping there but who knows)
    3. Simply trying to take the 53 man roster and expand to 60 give or take - By releasing Moore and signing another DB, they can see what they have to work with and if they are struggling with depth at some point, they bring back Moore assuming nobody picks him up which is quite likely. Wouldn't be surprised if this is what was said to him and the others (Carpenter, Branch, Rivera, etc.).

    Had they released Arrington, I suspect he would have been picked up pretty quickly.
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    Okay, so Moore is cut, that's all well and good but who is this Derrick Martin? And how is he better than Moore?
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    We don't know what's in the cards for Moore being here in the future, after all he was released twice last yr too.

    As far as his play goes, it wasn't good when left one on one with Demarius Thomas--that's for sure. I also believe that was due to a lack of proper safety help.

    Moore did just fine in the first 2 games, and held Larry Fitzgerald to 1 catch for 4 yds (with good help over the top, as was planned.)

    He didn't look like a sore thumb sticking out unless he was matched up one on one, which he basically sucked at....I do agree that he may have been used in a backup safety role, or even as a backup CB, but apparently Belichick doesn't, and he is the expert and the boss.

    I agree that he hasn't looked 'good,' but when considering guys like Arrington, Chung etc---it's still somewhat of a head scratcher as far as adequate depth goes.

    Here's hoping that Martin (???) is somehow better.
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