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    With homeless people at all-time high, though the media isn't reporting it much, there's another disturbing story not getting much play.

    The disappearing black middle class.

    Star Parker writes about it here,"Why do blacks still let Obama off the hook?" and has some data that are simply astounding, such as the following:
    She further asks a profound question:
    I don't know the answer.
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    Oh Jesus, here they come, the "good folks" on here would have my head if I posted this, I can't even mention gang bangers without them sh!tting their pants and squealing their race crap.
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    poor persecuted harry.... posts pretty much only about blacks and Muslims and can't understand why people say things...
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    It gets down to the fact that conservatives have generally stood in the way of black equality. Right or wrong, blacks, like other minorities, associate equality and justice with the Democratic Party, which since the 1930s has led the drive to integrate the military, provide better education to the poor, pass civil rights legislation, introduce programs like affirmative action to address the wrongs of the past, passed laws that outlaw discrimination (which the Tea Party wants to bring back at least for private businesses), and forced the integration of numerous industries. While the Democratic Plan has not worked as well as one would hope, the Republicans have never had a plan, and as many of the posts in this forum sow, there is a lot of focus by Republicans on negative behaviors based on skin color, suggesting that racism is still alive and well in Republican circles.
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    The middle class has been disappearing amonst all races, not only amongst blacks.. the unemployment rates amongst blacks are the highest in the US, coupled with the highest rates of incarceration...

    While there are inroads, there are as many obstacles...

    To say that this phenonemon is unique to Obama is another right wing myth...

    You play the media card over and over again, of course you do not see it if you only ingest right wing sites.. it is there if you want to find it.

    Your fascination with blacks will soon only rival Harry B, and you may become a one trick pony.
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    I'm fascinated by what I read in the news and especially the double standard on how that news is reported, haven't you noticed it?


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    Harry's only rival in that department is the OP when it comes to a fixation on black people. I suppose this thread is an attempt by the OP to apparently soften his reputation of black-bashing towards a kinder, gentler stance of "concern" and "sympathy" for their plight. Of course, he can't get through it without a dig on black people in the end. What a shock.

    "Materialism of socialism"...too funny...as if capitalism isn't solely based on materialism by its nature. Blacks = socialists...but they can't seem to help themselves. It's evolutionary.:rofl:
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    I'm disappearing out of the middle class myself--I'm less than two years from owning my own plush but not ostentatious home.

    And that reminds me, Darryls, did you read recently that black men have a longer life span in jail than out of it? Wild stuff.

    Jail would be very bad for me since my butt's so cute. Not that I'd know, only girls and gals have told me so.
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    Why does a person get incarcerated, being in Corrections you should know the answer to that (please, none of the poverty crap, if you want to see poverty read about the 1930's)
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    A major factor is differential judicial representation, not many poor folks can afford private attorneys and PD's tend to be more realistic. The "war on drugs is another factor".. blacks tend to be given longer sentences, and for many doiong time is a rite of passage..

    Poverty has a whole bunch to do with it, but you do not want to hear it..
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    No did not read the article about the black men have a longer life expectency in jail.. where did you find it the KKK times???
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    Why are there so few Chinese in Jail, why don't we see any American Indians in TV Commercials, I don't think I have ever seen a Japanese Fire Fighter--------------------------------:confused:
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    Can you try posting articles from a source less insane and credulous than WND?
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    yeah, I particularly liked the materialism / socialism line, too
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    You can try googling it, silly.

    Here, let me do it for you: black men live longer in jail - Google Search

    I didn't know the Atlantic was a KKK publication. This was big news last week. I guess you spent too much time here getting on your high horse.
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    You got the joke in a way not expected.

    It's a serious point made by Star Parker that totally eludes you.

    Christianity, which American blacks practice in large if not overwhelming numbers in a manner more consistent than whites (as one who has lived in DC I loved watching the ladies with the flamboyant hats coming and going from churches), is based on a non-material view. I mean I'm no Christian, but the materialism--I generally call it the outright theft--buttressing the socialist left is fundamentally incompatible from the message from the carpenter from Galilee.

    Placing icons does not an argument make, CW, as much as you think you're being cute.
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    Liberals will always try to ignore the fact that the Black Community LOVES Christianity and Jesus, it's very hard to find anything that Martin Luther King ever said where he doesn't mention his Faith, God and Jesus. When the Black Community shot down Gay Marriage in California they were following the teachings of their Religion, that is a fact.
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    Here's the peer-reviewed article:

    All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality Among Black and White North Carolina State Prisoners, 1995–2005, Annals of Epidemiology

    From the abstract:
    Interesting that the opposite was true for whites (at least for "chronic causes of death").
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    What is the life expectancy for whites in prison?? What is the life expectancy for hispanics in prison??

    With the amount of money we paid for your education, you should know that taking one figure alone in a vacuum is folly.. show the trends for the all three and see if there is a significant difference..

    But the most important variable here is access to health care, usually pretty good, from the initial medical assessment any medical needs are addressed, and if followup is needed it is taken care of.
    Suspect that if you did a life expectancy by socioeconomic class then things may be pretty much increased for this class of people.

    When you take someone into custody, you own the whole person, and if that person needs extraordinary medical care you have to provide it.. this is a major reason wny prisons are so expensive and there is no federal reimbursement.
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    And the materialism buttressing the authoritarian right, and capitalism, is fundamentally incompatible with the message from the carpenter from Galilee as well.

    It's a serious point that wistah and I made that totally eludes you.


    Repeatedly and obsequiously touting your right-wing icons does not an argument make, state, as much as you fawn over those you view as authority.

    And where in my post you cited were any icons? (maybe you were thinking of your komrade, harry)
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    who has ever ignored that?

    Your fantasyland is a weird, weird place, harry.


    and plenty of people here were unhappy with them (along with hispanics and mormons) about it -- I guess it may be human nature to always try to keep some other group down rather than learn from the mistreatment your group has received.
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    I can't wait for the jewish Spartan's next negative thread about black people. It's like standing at a bus stop. You know one's coming any minute.
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    A shame that our tax dollars were spent on a West Point Education for such foolish diatribe.. it is predictable though.

    Thought that the outcome would have been more discerning, or at least somewhat intelligent.
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    See my post.
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    Besides not addressing the issue of the thread and treating me with disparagement, you neglect that this thread is about black people written by a prominent black woman.

    Just thought I'd set the record straight. And the fact you set forth nothing of substance--which is why you probably set out to marginalize me. What I have to say, which you aren't knowledgeable or intelligent enough to respond to, is no longer the issue. It's attacking me.

    It's called the fallacy of ad hominem, the most common one.

    And, yes, DarrylS, thanks for you and Patters paying for the majority of my schooling. I graduated with not a penny of debt. Thank you.
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    I neglect nothing about this thread. I have made plenty of comments on the situation that poor (sometimes black) Americans find themselves in despite their desire to work, obey the law, raise their families in peace and security while being crapped-on by socially stagnant, race-baiting white supremacists on this board and everywhere else in society.

    The "facts" you present in this and countless other threads are nothing more tan a systematic attempt to sway the opinions of weak minds like your own toward the lie that white people (along with asians and Jews-like you, of course) are intrinsicly better than black people. It is a basic lack of intelligence on the part of people like you that fails, intentionally or otherwise, to include the big picture that explains why people north of the equator have been more technologically "successful" than everyone else on the planet (except, of course, for the Asians who migrated to North America).

    Your boring and repetetitive tirade against people who are not part of your favorite three groups is nothing more than puffed-up pseudo-intellectualism punctuated with a few bits of data that have been woven into your false theory. Any fool can do that. Problem is, that your act is interesting to the dim-witted majority who would prefer to be spoon-fed crap than seek out real information that would flesh-out their own understanding of the Big Picture of human history.

    It is truly embarrassing that you have taken all of us for the money it cost to "educate" you. What is worse is that, because of that waste of time on the taxpayer dime, you now give yourself permission to masquerade as some sort of "patriot" concerned about the welfare of white Americans and their money, while showing no respect or concern for anyone else. You can now take your imaginary anthropology degree and kindly shove it up your ego-centric arse, Captain America.
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