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  1. chevss454

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    Goodell announced Donte Stallworth's reinstatement is official after the Super Bowl. I thought he was pretty effective and could be a great value moneywise.

    What do you think?
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    I think it would be a nightmare PR move.
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    I'd have no problem with it.

    There's a big difference between a criminal like Vick who willingly tortured defenseless dogs for years and a guy who had a 0.12 BAC and unfortunately hit someone who was jaywalking.
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    Yeah, for the right price. We still don't know what other teams would be interested
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    I don't think so. He made a mistake and owned up to it. Leonard Little is a two-time loser and I don't remember picketing in the streets when he was resigned.
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    well....ok that is a good point.
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    Personally, I don\'t want anyone who killed another human being on the team.

    Yet alone one who had 17 receptions in his last season in the NFL and hasn\'t played for a whole year now.
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    People forget he was sliding down the depth charts before he left here. Gaffney had already surpassed him as the #3 option. So he is now three years older, missed an entire year of football, doesn't play special teams, he is injury prone (missed a lot of time before he came to the Pats and missed time after he left due to hamstring problems) and would be a PR nightmare. I say the Pats will definitely pass on the guy.
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    Leonard Little was a Pro Bowler when he did it. Unfortunately, for our society, elite athletes are held to different standards. When they become average, they are held to the same standards as everyone else.

    Besides, Little was in small market on the Western part of this country in St. Louis which doesn't get a lot of media coverage (even when they were a Super Bowl team) and doesn't get held up to the scrutiny that the East Coast teams do. Beside, there is a lot of the media that hates Belichick and the Pats and would love to attack them on the character of this team.
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    I'll take him back in a shot.

    I don't care about PR.

    It's not like anybody likes us anyway.
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    I think it's the opposite. (eg: Tiger Woods)

    While no one really pays attention to the average guys.
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    Doesn't matter for us anyway. People will hate us for signing him, people will hate us if we don't sign him.

    I would like him back, but he was moved from WR3 to WR4 for a reason...not saying I know the reason, but I suppose at some point in the season BB thought either Gaffney was working harder than Stallworth or Stallworth wasn't running the proper routes/adjusting mentaly to the Patriots scheme. These things would have to be cleared up.
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    I'd take him back for sure. He's a good guy who did a terrible thing. If he's straight and in recovery, I see no reason not to take the PR hit.
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    I really don't think he is that good,I wouldn't even think about it.

    His best days have passed.
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    no

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    I'd take him back, but I would also pick someone else up in free agency or through the draft to compete as well. He's going to be dirt cheap. On top of that, 697 yards in 9 games started is pretty damn good for a guy who was essentially a #3 to a #4 option. Can someone remind me again what Sam Aiken's stats were this year? On top of that, Brady had nothing but glowing things to say about him and his ability as a wide receiver when he was here.
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    His highlight with the Pats was certainly against the Cowboys, seven receptions for 136 yards and a TD.

    Fantastic YAC receiver.
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    Take him back in a minute. Matter of fact, I'll pick him up at Logan and drive him to Foxboro. He will work his tail off to pick up the pieces in his life and it starts with his football career, he will be extra motivated after what he has been through.

    Bring in Donte.

    There's our 3rd WR issue solved (cheaply and without costing us a draft pick), this would allow us to use all four of our day one picks on the "D" and OL.
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    I'm with ya......I'll give ya gas money.

    Nothing like the work of an Extremely Motivated Man
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    Stallworth has had trouble learning every system he's been in. I think he's a nice wr, but I would be very surprised to see him back.
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    If he can even make a safety glance his way then he's better than anyone else we had lining up wide left this year. So yeah, sign the beast.
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    Yes.

    teneroonietoonie
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    No thanks. Been there, done that, didn't work. We need to focus on locating and developing guys who get it, not guys who just don't mesh with this offense because it and Brady aren't changing or dumbing it down any time soon.
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    I think you might consider that he might not have anything left in the tank.

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    yes, he ended 2007 as our #4, but even if he's deteriorated significantly since then, he'd *still* go into 2010 as our #3. There's no Gaffney around to beat him out anymore, so yeah, I'd definitely want him back for the right money.
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    If the Browns release him, I hope the Pats at least give him a workout to see if he does have something left in his tank. He has physical talent and he will be motivated. It could be a "value" pick for the team.
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    I swear people remember former players far more or less fondly after they are gone. Stallworth was not very good the second half of the season for the Pats in 2007. After the bye week 10, he had 17 catches for 244 yards and no TDs. That is a pedestrian 2.4 catches for 34.9 yards and no TDs. He had fallen to #4 on the depth chart. In the playoffs, he had a good gme vs. Jacksonville (3 catches for 68 yards), but disapeared the next two playoff games.

    Stallworth is a JAG. He is a JAG who is consistently injured and missed a year of football. If he is the Pats' #3 WR in 2010, I am peissed. The Pats don't need him. There are better free agent WRs they can get without the baggage especially with a lot of higher priced veterans likely to be cut. I'd rather have Branch back than Stallworth and I don't know how much Branch has left.
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    I don't see what the downside would be in having Stallworth in camp competeting for a spot.

    One of the constructive criticisms of the Patriots this year was that there was no other deep threat to take advantage of double teams on Moss. Whether Stallworth could play that role - if indeed the coaches decided to use him that way - is a BIG "if"... Stallworth isn't an old man but he doesn't exactly have a strong track record to point to in the last few years.

    And yes, while Gaffney's all around skills and good rapport with Brady moved him into the 3rd WR role by the end of 2007, it's not like Stallworth's career was done - at $6 million for his second season EVERYONE incuding Stallworth, knew he wasn't going to be back with the Pats in 2008 once they signed Moss.

    I'm not concerned about the PR issue. You can question whether the Judge went too light with his home confinement sentence but I think that speaks to the Judge's decision that this was a very tragic accident, and I'd expect less fan outrage about him signing with a team than there was about his light sentence - which was minimal.

    Frankly, from a football perspective I don't think Stallworth would choose to come back into the same situation he was in for the 2007 season, so it's probably a moot point.
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    Sam Aiken's SEASON stats as our #3:

    20 receptions, 326 yards, 2 TD's. 171 yards came in two games (81 yards of which came off of a fluke catch in which he was actually beaten on the route by Vontae Davis). So yeah, I'd say Stallworth would probably be a more viable option than Sam "special teams guru" Aiken.
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    Sorry- I was a huge Donte Stallworth fan, so much so I felt we did not even need Moss.. Well I was wrong about Stallworth , it was always a struggle for him to catch a pass and td's , Gaffney passed him up on the depth chart.. Expect to see him on Kc next year..
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