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  1. Armen Da Pats Fan

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    I didn't kow that Piloli had a big say in Mawae going to NY. If Koppen can play Guard (can he ? I assume he can as he's always good getting out on screens) well, this is a no-brainer at the right price. Is Mawae a nice guy ? Probably not but the middle of the OL isn't a place for nice guys.
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    At least we wouldn't have to worry about Seymour's knees anymore. Except in practice.
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    say it aint so?!? i dunno man, are you loosing your marbles..i would welcome this big fellow to the middle of our OL with no regrets,second thoughts or anything...if your gonna call what mawae does "cheap" than you gotta put harrison in the same category...no ifs and or buts...but we all love rodney dont we..hes just very "passionate" for the game-I am sure mawae is too. Bring on mawae..mankins..light...oh god...** jumping for joy**
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    This signing would be AWESOME - do you think Denver's O line will be so quick to cut the legs off of Seymour knowing that their own "D" would have to face a ticked off Kevin Mawae.

    Are you kidding me?? Sign him up!!!
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    NY rumor mill has it that Eric Mangia cut him because he was the leak, the guy who said to the press that Penny was as "fragile as an egg back there".
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    have no fears etheir, i am sure we work something out with willie..if not hey, i know it sucks to lose such a class act (minus playoff sideline meltdown), such a force and true patriot in every sense of the word..but if management wants to get younger at his poistion and doesnt see the need to give him the money hes asking for..theres not much else u can do except let the man test the waters..but dont get it confused, i want him to stay as bad as u do.
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    That rap on Mawae is not substantiated. IMO.

    The injury to Ted W. he apologized for and sounded sincere. The injury
    to Seymour was also a freak thing ... can't see how anyone could say
    it was intentional.
    I would like to have him as a PATs Center. Next to Logan I think they
    could some good things.

    What to do with Koppen? The only way I could see Mawae coming is if
    Koppen is hurt worst than has been reported or if Koppen can play RG.

    If PATs let Neal leave via FA and Koppen can play RG then Mawae could be
    a possibility.
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    I dont think this is a Patriot type FA signing. Mawae is near the end of his career and coming off and injury.
    It seems to sign Mawae you would have to pay what he WAS worth, not what he is worth today and in the future, which in his case means overpaying.

    We have needs to fill. One of them is G. We also need WRs, and some additions in the secondary, plus a kicker.

    We have enough cap room to fill these spots with good players, but not enough to miss badly. Spending big on Mawae to have him on the sidelines by October, or to see he is declining, would be a mistake IMO.

    Very good player, but he is at the point in his career where he is getting worse not better, and I am fearful the decline is coming fast.
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    That's another positive, he knows what the hell he's talking about :D
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    I understand you don't want to throw a team mate under the bus, but IF true, he was hardly going out on a limb there. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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    It seems. But in the article he says he's already had two big contracts and sounds more interested in winning. Which suggested that he may take a Patriot style contract.
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    "My goal is not to break the bank,†Mawae said on a conference call Monday. “I’ve done that two times. It’s not about the money, but it’s about winning a championship from this point. I’m going to go to the team that gives me the best chance to win the Super Bowl.â€

    Translation: Yo! Pioli .... over here!!
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    The article doesn't say that signing him here is a sure thing but getting a tough center like Mawae would probably create more space for Dillon to run and more importantly keep Brady from getting hit so much. That's not such a bad thing. Belichickfan got it right too, the middle of the OL is not for nice guys.
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    Assuming that Koppen comes back and is OK, Kevin M could be switched to guard. That would give us a guy who is "nasty" to replace Neal, if he goes.

    I love nasty OL's as long as they wear a Patriots uni.
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    I hope they take a shot at him...why not?? Would you rahter see him in Mia??
    Koppen's injury may have been worse...so..I would consider it a stop gap measure..as other OL may be developed..a vet like that always helps..esp one who is mean. nasty and knows how to play!!
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    This seems a solid match for us. Mawae is Harrison on offense. We will call him a dirty player until he plays for us.
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    Yup, perspective is often the difference that determines whether one is "dirty" or "mean".
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    I thought the exact same thing when I first heard. Then I read the article and his quotes. The guy is practically begging to come here. He would come HERE cheap, if I read between the lines correctly.
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    Given that he has said its not about the money, my tune may change.

    Here is what I'd like to see if Mawae can fit.

    Move Koppen to G (Im sure he can make that adjustment)

    Draft an OL in round 1, or 2 is OK I guess, I dont care if its a G or T

    We will go into this year with:

    Light-Mankins-Mawae-Koppen-Kaczur

    Backed up by
    Hochstein, the rookie, Gorin, etc

    With Hochstein here, and a rookie stud, we have injury insurance.
    Koppen, IMO, is not in the long term plan whether by his choice or the teams. (Just a feeling)

    We should draft a C on day 2 to groom.
    We are set at OL long term with the exception of the rookie becoming a player, and C only being short term, but that should not be tough to correct down the road.

    That OL,IMO, would be a big upgrade over last year, with rookies having a year under their belt, and injured guys back. The depth is very exciting too.

    We can draft a T rather than G, because all of our young OL have position flexibility.
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    One disagreement. Koppen stays at center and Kevin M goes to guard. Kevin has always had trouble with the shotgun snap and Tom likes to use it.
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    This discussion is reminiscent of Lou Gorman's "where would we play him" comment about ... hmm ... I can't remember who he was talking about, but whoever it was was really good! (*)

    Anyway, assuming

    a) he is fully recovered from the triceps tear
    b) he hasn't lost a lot off his fastball and
    c ) is not looking to break the bank (as he says),

    I would love to have this guy. He is a monster both in pass blocking and run blocking, and would bring veteran leadership to a still relatively young oline.

    * edit: it was Willie McGee, a lifetime .295 hitter despite hanging on too long and hitting .250 his last 2 seasons.
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    I agree.....although I do think there's a chance to get Neal back..and he has a strong upside...although I would not throw large bucks to keep him. Again, I think BB knows best..as well as DS. Light, Mankins, Mawae, Koppen and Kaczur might be pretty strong.,,with Hochstein, Gorin and ????? Yes, I do think we could draft 2 linemen, but I won't overlook others they are developing. They also have Ross Tucker who seems versatile as well as Mruczkowski and Yates, who may step it up into solid backups. Add in possibles Krug, Britt, Roehl and Steitz, and that has to be a promising situation. If they think any of these 7 can get into the mix, drafting a player might occur at a lower round...depending.
    I do agree Mawae might be a Harrison equal on offense..and the line needs that sort of meanness and edge play. It also seems like he's less about the money and more about winning..so??? Sign him up!!
    Koppen is sort of a mystery in some ways. It seems like his injury may have been worse..but even before that, I also remember hearing how at FA he was thinking about returning to PA...Eagles???
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    There was some scuttlebutt a few weeks ago that Koppen's injury may have been a lot worse and therefore more of a concern going forward than initially assumed. He was also not believed to be a home town discount kind of guy. I'd also rather see Mawae here than in front of Brees in Miami.

    It's odd that Mangini cut him with so little cap at stake, so either he felt he was slipping or he was a disgruntled vet Eric felt he couldn't count on in transition. If he was the source of the fragile as an egg comment he is obviously a bright guy, but I still don't like the behind the scenes finger pointing. Frustration is understandable for a core JETS player, but you don't agitate in the background before the new regime coaches it's first practice.

    I'm in the we need to ramp up that Oline camp, so I'll trust Belioli on this call.
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    The Pat's really didn't recover from cutting Joe Andruzzi who likely would have made a big difference running the ball last season.
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    Wasnt Koppens injury a broken arm? That doesn't seem like an injury with any question in recovery
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    Was Koppen's injury career threatening too? I know they were concerned that Matt Light's leg injury could be worse than first thought.
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    I thought he seperated his shoulder, or dislocated it. I don't remember hearing of it being a break. Who knows though. Either way on Koppen, I'd love to have Mawae. He's like Harrison, you probably hate him until he's on your team.
    And even if he WAS the one to call Penny out for being a wimp, can you really blame him? It's just the truth. Penny's a sissygirl.
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    Forgetting my personal bias against him, let's also remember he is 35 years old and coming off an injury...

    Hoping the Pats steer wide of this guy...

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