SPEC-U-LA-TION: The death knell for Ben Watson?

[MrBigglesWorth]

And you will note that the opponent's WR caught and held onto a TD pass in the EZ with Hawkins about to nail him.

Watson screwed up and then literally to add insult to injury got injured on the play. Not what you originally said.

EDIT: maybe you left out an "if"

please clarify....and "if" where?

 

[gomezcat]

Daniel Graham gets named a captain, which means look for a long-term deal any day now. He's a much better blocker than Watson and his hands are more than fine, plus he's like a runaway train when he gets motoring in the open field.

Dave "Triple With Cheese" Thomas is looking like the second coming of Dave Casper. A throwback "big white-guy" tight end who runs nice routes, is strong on the block on the move with the ball and throws the highlight reel catch in for good measure here and there.

Then, you've got poor, old "Slippery Hands" Watson.

Ben comes into what was supposed to be his "breakout season" and ends up becoming the king of the greasy-ball and then, to add insult to injury, just when his season is going south, he pulls up with some mysterious, candy-arse injury!

Make no mistake: Ben Watson is this generation's Marv Cook (the Pats tight end who was replaced by the legendary Ben Coates for you bandwagon jumpers and younger fans).

Just when you thought Old Watson was about to become a star, along comes Watson's own personal "Ben Coates" in the form of Dave Thomas and before you know it, the promise becomes a memory and he's playing for some cut-rate franchise somewhere!

(I think old Marv ended up with some very bad Bears teams!)

I see Watson and his fumble-itis out of here in the offseason while Beli-oli can still get something for him.

ADPF




PS:

By the way, is it just me or does Eric Mangini look like the kid you would have loved to beat the crap out of at a keg party after you and your buddies burnt some krippy and slammed a few greenies in high school!?!?!?!

I can't see him being dumped just yet. Outside of sales and all those crappy "hire and fire" industries, it isn't common practice to get rid of people based on one less-than-perfect month or so.

 

[Digger44]

one thing I want to point out just based on this past game.

Thomas finds the open hole in the zone for the td and not a defender within a half yard to hit Thomas.

Watson's catches the ball and he takes one step and a defender is half a foot from hitting him.

So is it the receiver's fault for not running a precise route?
Is it Brady's fault for setting the receiver up into the hit?
Is it the OC fault for calling plays that lead into the teeth of the defense?

or mayber the coverage was not as tight because the main passing threat of watson was on the bench with an injury and the rookie TE was not considered dangerous.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

or mayber the coverage was not as tight because the main passing threat of watson was on the bench with an injury and the rookie TE was not considered dangerous.

good point, i guess time will tell on thomas

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

one thing I want to point out just based on this past game.

Thomas finds the open hole in the zone for the td and not a defender within a half yard to hit Thomas.

Watson's catches the ball and he takes one step and a defender is half a foot from hitting him.

So is it the receiver's fault for not running a precise route?
Is it Brady's fault for setting the receiver up into the hit?
Is it the OC fault for calling plays that lead into the teeth of the defense?

You should have said "IF Watson catches the ball..."
The stump wiffed it.
(And I'm for keeping Ben on the roster as a talent.)

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

or mayber the coverage was not as tight because the main passing threat of watson was on the bench with an injury and the rookie TE was not considered dangerous.

That's why multiple games with strong contribution is the measuring stick.
Me, I think he'll prove his worth, but the result remains to be seen.

 

[pats1]

Why is it pointless? Is it because it's HIS opinion of Watson and not yours? Try to get over yourself before the new year rolls in.

It's not just HIS opinion, it's false. Watson is injured until proved otherwise.

 

[Digger44]

That's why multiple games with strong contribution is the measuring stick.
Me, I think he'll prove his worth, but the result remains to be seen.

Are you serious? By the way Armen talks he is a HOFer.

 

[Warren94]

WOW just WOW this entire thread is unbelievable.

 

[JoeSixPat]

He's only got a paltry 49 passes caught this year. We don't need that type of player around here. Armen's right. Cut him now.

 

[Joker]

Holmes is right...the game's afoot...elementary my dear Watson

 

[Digger44]

Do I hear the ***clown forum thread coming again?

 

[Digger44]

Holmes is right...the game's afoot...elementary my dear Watson

do you actually have anything of value to contribute?

 

[Joker]

yes I do

I enjoyed this season immensely

having a hard time finding something to get all riled up about

sure isn't anything worth getting all bent out of shape about in here today

 

[Armen Da Pats Fan]

BS, if you want to describe a member of the Pats offense who looks terminally confused out there, there is a far better example than Watson

Agreed. You can probably put Chad Jackson in the confused group, but in terms of not living up to all reasonable expectations, no one surpasses Slippery Hands!

 

[Armen Da Pats Fan]

I'm sick of your crap, Armen. It's one pointless thread after another.

Did you even see that play? Did not you not see the defender DRIVE into Watson's shin?

So don't read them and don't reply!

What else can I say to you...

It's just my opinion...

 

[Armen Da Pats Fan]

I think Armen's post goes WAY overboard. The physical tools Watson has, plus the promise--more than promise, delivery on promise--make him extremely valuable. He has excellent hands, excellent speed and excellent YAC abilities.

I look forward to having him and Maroney both back on the field at the same time, along with Graham. And I think if he'd been in good shape, the Jaguars' game would have been easier.

We have only very rarely had all of our best offensive players on the field in the same game. Even worse, some of our potentially best offensive players simply haven't had enough experience to make a big-time impact.

We seem to be getting healthier at the right time. I wish Maroney, Jackson and Watson had another year under their belts, but I still believe when they do, we will have an offensive juggernaut.

Armen, I think you're asking for perfection when excellence will do just fine. And I think we're going to see excellence from Ben Watson before this season is over.

Now THAT'S the way to disagree!

Bravo!

"And I think we're going to see excellence from Ben Watson before this season is over."

This season? I am not even sure our boy is going to play again this season!

As usual when I crit, I hope I am wrong, because if I am, we've got another weapon.

BUt he just hasn't done it for me this year!

And I LOVE Thomas the past two games. Get THAT kid more reps!

 

[Digger44]

yes I do

I enjoyed this season immensely

having a hard time finding something to get all riled up about

sure isn't anything worth getting all bent out of shape about in here today

who got bent out of shape?

 

[Armen Da Pats Fan]

So you are saying you think Watson will go to two Pro Bowls as a Patriot?

Ha, Ha...

Yea, well...

Touche...

But Marv did get lost in the considerable wake of Coates...ya gotta gimme that!

 

[Joker]

I got lost under a bunch of coats at a wake once