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  1. Holy Diver

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    Apparently Bill Maher is claiming that it is a known fact and will talk about it on his Friday show Real Time on HBO.

    CNN edited the interview on Larry King, but you can watch the unedited version here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/11/08/censored-by-cnn-bill-mah_n_33701.html

    Makes a lot of sense if its true with Foley, Haggard, and the countless white house visits of male escorts posing as jornalists ..... who is next?
     
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    What does it matter? It's his business to discuss his sexuality.

    Who is next? Who cares?

    BTW: which politician would you vote for:

    Candidate A who is gay?
    Candidate B who is hetero sexual bangs his female campaign workers?
    Candidate C who has had a sex change operation.
    Candidate D who is hetero sexual and dresses in opposite sex underwear at home?
    Candidate E who is ASexual and not attracted to either sex?

    I'd would vote for the one who represents the people the best....sex is what they do in their personal time...like the rest of us... it is irrelevant to what they do as politicans and/or as government employees.
     
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    nah....you don't seem to get it.

    These people run on platforms of adding gay marriage bans to elections to force an agenda. They are hypocrites. I could give two $h!ts less if you are gay, straight, asexual, or metrosexual. Just do me a favor, and be honest about yourself and what you represent. Being gay and standing down for gay rights is a viscious circle. Ask your boy Ted Haggard.
     
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    What's Wrong With Being A Homosexual
     
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    What is it with you and gays?

    What are you.....14 years old?

    ...."don't drop the soap"?

    jeez......you sound like a schoolgirl.
     
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    It has nothing to do with me and gays ... it has everything to do with me and hypocrites, and liars.

    What is happening on the far right of the republican party, the one that was setting the agenda. Is that they are pandering to what they think will get them the most votes, even if that means not standing up for what they are as human beings, or what they are inside.

    How can you expect honesty and integrity from your leaders, when they can't be honest with you?

    This is classless.

    keep defending your lying criminal leaders....Keep listening to hate....keep calling me names if it makes you feel better.
     
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    If a gay politician wants to ban gay marriage so what? See...you don't get it. People's personal lives should be seperate from their politics. The point of my post was that.

    So then an alchoholic should not legislate drunk driving laws?
    A black politician cannot legislate against affirmative action?
    A horny politician who cheats on his/her spouse cannot legislate marriage laws?

    Oh....I get it....you don't, your bias of labeling people clouds your judgement. In fact ... i cannot stand to even call a gay person a gay person. I made the post a while back of why we do not refer to hetero sexual politicians as hetero sexuals and got mocked...I didn't care....still don't.

    Take the labels off people and discuss an issue on it's own merits. An issue is not who's making it, or who is discussing it. An issue is what's good for the majority of America....and it should never matter if ir's promoted by a man, woman, gay, straight, black, white or yellow person.

    Now take some time to get it why don't you ... take the labels and throw them in the trash where they belong....my post above remains valid.
     
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    I hear ya to a point....and I think you are missing mine.

    It would be like Nanci Pelosi pushing to remove women's sufferage from the constitution. All the time being dressed as a man.

    No?

    The labels will never be taken off of people until a majority of america becomes honest with what they are, discusses it, and pushes it aside. Point and case is when JFK was running for president, people were leary of voting for him because he was.....catholic..(gasp!).....shocking and unprecidented for those days. Change comes about slowly.
     
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    We'll said,FBN......I wish I had your patience.



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    and articulation.
     
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    No, YOU don't get it. The push to ban Gay Marriage is because people believe in protecting the sanctity of marriage. That marriage is between a man and a woman. My support for marriage in no way means that I am anti-gay. By your logic, someone who is pro-choice would then be anti-children. Afterall, supporting the abortion rights must mean that you despise children right? So do you despise children Holy?
     
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    so do you support a 'civil union' with all benefits of a marriage without the title?
     
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    .......and Kryptonite,to protect us from:

    the vaucous....banal....and inane.
     
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    Good thing Patters isnt alive to see this or it'd be locked city for sure.

    Dont gore the mods' ox!
     
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    Yes I do. I simply feel that marriage is for men and women.
     
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    Pretty funny from a morally elevated liberial person of 'tolerance. So what you are syaying is that a gay person is only allowed to believe that 'gay mattiage' show be legally enforcable? What a joke. Perhaps Mr Mellman believes in 'live and let live',rahter than turning upside down social principles that have been observed in every human society throughout the ages.

    Yep the libs will brook no one who disagrees with their agenda, and if they do well just try to destroy the person and rationalize it by carring the person a hypocrite.

    Funny thing is most conservatives don't care. Only libs seem obsessed by sex.
     
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    Check the Romans for your historical society that had qustionable social principals... anyway...we are not seeing eye to queer eye on this.

    I give up, you guys win! WHITE FLAG!
     
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    Funny thing about this is that, as I said, those who rail most against gays are most likely the ones who are in fact gay themselves. Not that theres anything wrong with that, unless you are pandering votes from homophobic constituencies for lack of anything truly substantive to base a platform on.

    Thats whats lost in all this. All the politicos knew that the gay marriage issue was introduced before the 04 election for one thing only---> to associate Kerry with Mass. gay rights and thus hurt his chances of election.

    Bush went with that and guys like Rove, Haggard, and Mehlman were some of the brains behind the strategy...

    ...since two of them are now "out", I say now with confidence that Rove should make the announcement and watch the last hangers on swallow their tongues for being played like complete morons.
     
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    I never heard Melman rail against gays. Being against 'gay marriage' doesn't equate with being aginst gay people. I don't think the goverment should get involved in contracts between adults. or how pricate companies want to distribute employee benefiits.

    Marriage is a longstsnding social institution that is a aclnowledgement of the importance of male/female bonding in building the optimimum social structure for raising children. Since the birth rates in the industrialized world have dropped so mucgh many have lost sight of that.
     
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    I know you despise the Rove/Bush/GOP machine but I have to disagree with you here. The Gay Marriage issue was brought to light in 2002 in Massachusetts. It had nothing to do with national politics. Only when the liberal loons who run the courts decided to legislate from the bench did the issue gain national attention. When people accross the country saw that judges could impose policy on them they cringed, and the result was that 20 different states put it to the people via ballot questions. This is from today's Globe:

    Even before the state's highest court ruled in November 2003 to legalize same-sex marriages, the 200-member Legislature had grappled with various efforts to change the state constitution to ban them. They refused to vote on a citizens' initiative in 2002, and two years later voted down their own proposed amendment banning gay marriage and legalizing Vermont-style civil unions.
     

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