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    Very interesting stuff in that article about Wheatley. This is just a small blurb.

    I look forward to watching the development of Shawn Crable. That Hybrid part intrigues me.

    It seems that both of or Rooky corners played a lot of man coverage in College. Interesting. Could we be changing from zone to a little more man coverage? Just curious. It would make sense for the Pats to draft players who can play zone, no?

    Anyway. I thought all of these articles were great. You guys should go read them when you have some free time. This rooky class seemed to have one word in common: SMART. I hope that leads to an easy transition for these kids. I can't wait for training camp to start. :rocker:
     
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    GREAT POST...good to read about the rooks..optimism is high!!! ALL good...
     
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    nice find...

    i wonder why they ommitted the 10th pick of the draft
     
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    I don't think they are finished with the articles yet. They didn't do one about Slater or Bo Ruud yet. Mayo will get his turn I'm sure. They probably figure that we know more about Mayo than all of the other picks. JMO.
     
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    Interesting .... thanks for posting.;)
     
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    Real nice article on O'Connell. Didn't know he had the highest wonderlic at the combine. I've been skeptical about this guy, not because of spending a third-rounder, but because of scouting reports (I don't watch SD State games, so what other source of info do I have?) that his pocket sense was weak, and that's been a problem for Cassel and is one of Brady's great strengths. But this was an intriguing article and it's getting me fired up about a guy who I hope won't get much playing time in the regular season. :)
     
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    His pocket sense may be weak but also his o-line was considered weak, was it not? I believe they surrendered upwards of 30 sacks last year. If that is so, I would think it difficult to judge one's pocket presence when there is no pocket to be had.
     
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    And that's the point everyone makes. But the scouting report I read took that into account and that's all I had to go by. "his o-line was considered weak" is also second or third hand information, regardless of whether it's true. Unless we actually saw the games, all we can do is regurgitate other people's opinions.

    Personally, I'd like to see this guy succeed, but it's all drivel until we see him in at least a few pre-season games. Sensing the rush is hard to demonstrate in practice. Cassel seemed, to me and others more knowledgeable, to be a terrific candidate, but as the years went by it became obvious that in live games he was sacked too easily, so I'm reserving judgment. He is, after all, a rookie. Rookie QBs have a pretty high failure rate.
     
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    Great find, thanks for sharing......
     
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    I can't wait to see Crable develop either... partly because I want to see Crable and Vrabel lining up next to each other at linebacker. :)

    I'm very excited about Mayo and Wheatley, too... and I'm very curious about the multi-talented Slater.
     
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    I think we all agree with the first part, but from what I've read from scouts and Belichick - folks who HAVE seen the actual footage of that sieve of an OL O'Connell played behind (or, more aptly, in front of), I completely buy the meme that KO was on his own and running for his life in San Diego.
     
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    Just a thought here--David Carr looked awesome when he had Logan Mankins at guard--then he went to the Texans.

    O'Connell accomplished what he did with a line that was about as useful as the Texans'--and now he gets to play behind Mankins. :D
     
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    That's a very good point. :D
     
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    Thanks for the links. Nice reads, especially this time of the years.

    One nice thing about this rookie class is that they're fast, at least the top picks. They also seem to be football smart and just simply love football, a BB prerequisite. Plus I hear Mayo loves watching film.

    Given that Capers is now on board and Seymour is healthy and in a contract year, it should be a fun year to watch them grow.
     
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    the pats defense is going to be a lot better then people think. younger faster and better than last years defense. i think people will look back at this years draft class and be very happy.
     
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    He's more likely to be playing behind Mruc and Yates. Brady plays behind Mankins.

    I appreciate all your optimism but I believe in letting rookies be rookies and waiting until they take the field. Rohan Davey was also a high pick at 117, just a few spots below O'Connell.

    O'Connell (apparently) has great intangibles: character, intelligence, toughness, and leadership, along with tangible speed, height, and accuracy. He can probably learn the playbook. The question, as it is for anyone, is whether he can adapt to the speed of the NFL: make the quick reads, sense the rush. Davey couldn't do it, Klingberry or Klingon or whatever, he couldn't do it. Cassel has his struggles, but I haven't given up on him, yet. Gutierrez is still a youngster and O'Connell hasn't even seen a training camp.

    Edited to say: Personally, I thought Gutierrez looked pretty good last year and I haven't stopped rooting for him!
     
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    I was yawning at my desk and when I read the Klingon nickname I laughed and shot spit all over my monitor.
     
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    If I can't be insightful, I can always be good for a laugh. :)
     
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    I'll toss in this one that showed up on the Planet, from Patriots.com (emphasis mine):

     
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