Some Deep Sleepers

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  1. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress In the Starting Line-Up

    Here are a few defensive players with rd 6 and below projections on NFL draftscout that may have starting potential in the NFL:

    CB Terence Wheatley: Alot of people like him and he'll probably go in rd 4 now. So he no longer really qualifies for this list. Visiting the Pats this week.

    CB Isiah Gardner, Maryland: An elite athlete at a big school with good production.

    CB Marcus Walker, Oklahoma: Shoulder problems. Had a stellar junior campaign with 3 INTs and 9 PBU. Honorable mention all big 12 two years in a row.

    FS Darnell Terrell, Missouri: Has good hands, speed, size, leaping ability.

    FS David Roach, TCU: super athlete.

    3-4, 4-3 OLB Hilee Taylor, NC: 4.6 speed, led tarheels with 10.5 sacks, 16 TFLs.

    4-3 OLB Larry Grant: only OSU d-player to shine in National title game. Outplayed Laurinitis. Had 5 sacks, 9.5 TFLs in his only year a sa full time starter. ran a 6.9 3-cone.

    4-3 OLB Marcus Richardson, Troy: Played well at Hula Bowl, great quickness (6.7 3-cone), power (36' VJ) speed (4.6 40).

    3-4, 4-3 OLB Curtis Gatewood, Vandy: elite athletic tools, played out of position in college at DE. Tough SEC player. Good special teams candidate who could transition to back up 3-4 OLB or drop weight and play 4-3 OLB.

    ILB Jameel McClain, Syracuse: Huge powerful plugger with decent quickness. Played DE as a junior and had 9.5 sacks.

    ILB Danny Lansanah, UConn: Big powerful player. Had a 39" VJ, a 4.7 40 and a 4.17 3-cone at 245 lbs. Also had 4 INTs, 14 TFLs and 3 PBU as a senior. 4 INTs as a junior, 2 INTs as soph, so he can make plays.

    DT Teraz McCray, Miami: good production as a senior for a DT, with 6 sacks and 10.5 TFLs. Good athlete for a 296 lber, with a 5.06 40, 27 reps and a 29'' VJ- all better results than GLENN DORSEY. As a comparison, Dorsey ran a 5.12, had 27 reps and a 25.5 VJ at 297 lbs. Dorsey had 7 sacks and 12.5 TFLs.

    Even Longer shots worth a look:

    CB Terrell Vinson, Purdue: led the Big 10 in PBU. 5 Ints, 13 PBU his senior season. Small, 4.5 speed and a 38'' VJ. No info on his agility drills, so I'm guessing here, but worth a look because he is very aggressive playing the run. Very tough.

    DT, 3-4 DE Barry Booker, VT: Solid production for a big program (4 sacks, 10.5 TFLs, 2 FF). Decent speed (5.06), lower body strength (30.5") for a 6'4'' 285 lber. Short arms are a concern, needs to gain strength. A project pick. Maybe better as a 1 gap penetrator (24 QB pressures).

    DE/DT: Ervin Baldwin, Michigan State: had 8.5 sacks, 18.5 TFL as a senior juco transfer. Failed to impress at Texas vs Nation all star game. But has very long arms, big hands, decent speed and tenacity. Played NT in dime sits for MSU, interior pass rusher. At 6'2'' 270 is a good inside pass rusher, can play the undertackle. Worth a look based on college production alone.
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  2. SamBamsFan

    SamBamsFan Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Nice list Pony. I appreciate the effort. I think I have 8-10 that aren't on your list and will post them tomorrow. Relatives here now. Ugh.
  3. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot ------------- Supporter

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    Hey Pony ... any 260lb fat guys that can catch a little and can run a 4.5 > 40? You know I dream every year for a battering ram FB ... why should this year be any different?
  4. VJCPatriot

    VJCPatriot Pro Bowl Player

    Those linebackers you listed better weigh at least 245 or they're not a good fit for the Pats defense. We seem to put a premium on size for the LB department.
  5. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox Supporter

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    I think that 240 lbs would be fine.

    Taylor - 6'2.5 and 242 lbs
    Larry Grant - 6'1 and 235 lbs
    Marcus Richardson - 6' and 235 lbs
    Curtis Gatewood - 6'2 and 248 lbs.
    Jameel McClain - 6' 7/8" and 249 lbs
    Danny Lansanah - 6' 1/2" and 244 lbs

    Throw in Jeremy Leman - 6'1.5" and 245 lbs.
  6. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress In the Starting Line-Up

    Sounds like my Uncle Ralph fits the bill... 300 lbs; slow as molasses; keeps bumping into things. Can catch a beer behind his back.

    Seriously... it looks like Owen Schmitt of WVU could be available in rd 6-7.
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  7. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 Supporter Supporter

    #3 Jersey

    Or he could be gone in round 3 or 4 (seriously).
  8. NePatriots

    NePatriots Draftnik Supporter

    Yeah, he and Goff seem to be the prospects with the biggest difference in grades, anywhere from the #60s to #260s
  9. BradyToMoss

    BradyToMoss Guest

    Another is Mackenzie Bernadeau of Bentley, a mauler at D2 and a projected guard who under the right coaching, such as that from one of the best in the business in Dante Scarnecchia, could emerge as a starting guard and at the very least, provide the Oline with great depth.
  10. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress In the Starting Line-Up

    Alright then... I'll go with Peyton Hillis, Carl Stewart out of Auburn, or Marcel Reese out of Washington (more of an H-back or Larry Centers FB). It's rare you see a FB drafted before rd 6 anyway.
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  11. VJCPatriot

    VJCPatriot Pro Bowl Player

    #1 source of Fullbacks for the NFL is ... UDFA.
  12. DW Toys

    DW Toys In the Starting Line-Up

    Lehman was stout for Ill but what are his measurables? He was all over the field and like 130 tackles I think?
    DW Toys
  13. WhiZa

    WhiZa Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Some of mine:

    RB Toledo Jalen Parmele - Big and fast. He could make the NFL by just being a goal line back. Reminds me of Sammy Morris without the receiving skills.

    C Kentucky Eric Scott - Was moved to from TE to C and is probably the quickest C in the draft. I'm figuring he could play the TE role like O'Callaghan was doing last year, and play C if needed.

    DE Kansas St. Rob Jackson - Reminds me of Klecko where he's played any position he could get his hands on, but couldn't master anyone of them. He's someone you stash on your PS and if a position opens, offense or defense, he could step in for you.

    TE Nevada Adam Bishop - Is basically a blocking TE and that's about it. The Pats could use him as a role player on running downs. He also has long snapping expirence if they ever look to replace Paxton.
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