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So will Brady actually throw accurate deep balls?

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  1. Fencer

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    To this point in his career, Brady's accuracy on deep passes has NOT been spectacular. Last offseason Josh McDaniel supposedly did some film work to diagnose the problem, but the effect didn't show on the field during the season.

    So -- now that he has Stallworth, is that finally going to change?
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    It seemed to be pretty good in the Charger game. I know 1 pass doesn't make the passer.
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    Brady has overthrown a lot last season..high balls..a little deep. i think its familiarity with the receivers..he did well with Deion remember STeelers game but he knew Deions speed and when he can get there
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    Maybe this was because of his 3 year long shoulder injury that made him probable every week.
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    yeah, I think they should get a REAL Quarterback!
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    Long before Manning deserved to be viewed as a Brady peer, he was superior to Brady in one regard -- the in-stride TD passes to Harrison. Manning has narrowed the gap in a lot of the areas where Tom has always been ahead.

    It's reasonable to wonder how far Brady will improve in what is pretty much his last remaining not-so-great area.
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    There is a perception that Brady can't throw the deep ball. There is also a perception that Peyton Manning can throw the deep ball. The reality - in the last 4 years each guy has hit 35 passes of 40 yards or more. Both guys throw it deep just fine.

    Another reality is that no QB throws the deep ball with a high degree of accuracy. Carson Palmer probably does it best and he hit 15 deep balls in 2006 - less than 1 a game and the prior years were 9 and 8. When you think of how many deep shots they take in that offense, his completion percentage on them is probably less than 50%.
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    Interesting. You're claiming Brady has already caught up.

    Maybe I'm guilty of thinking highlight plays are more frequent than they are ...
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    I saw a lot of deep balls thrown well by Brady last year but our WRs couldn't get under them. You really have to stride for that ball and time it. No QB in football can throw a ball that the receiver runs to at full speed. Receivers, instead, adjust to the ball. Marvin Harrison is so good and has such great body control that he makes it look effortless. On multiple occasions last year I saw Gaffney wide open for deep bombs but he was completely unable to get his body set to make a long grab. Or look at Terry Glenn. The guy used to excel at catching a ball 40 yards downfield, but he always lost his legs in doing so.
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    At least Stallworth knows how to run routes (not only the deep ones), has the ability to get open, and a league-wide respect for doing so. TC and pre-season will be spent developing that timing between QB and WR. Accuracy can be developed with numerous reps, provided the ingredients are present. Brady does have the arm strength necessary, while DS has the above skills. I'm hopeful.

    Even if Stallworth doesn't catch many deep balls -- he's a threat to. And that ought to be the ONLY point regarding his value. All it takes is for Brady to connect with him on a few deep passes, and they're now on film, leading to a gameplan awareness by opposing defenses. At the very least, this is all BB is hoping for .
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    The ability to connect on deep balls has just as much if not more to do with the WR's than the QB.
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    Tom Brady CAN hit the deep balls when he fully strides into his throw. He has improved his arm strength steadily since entering the league and if you remember some of the bombs he has hit to Branch, including that long 60+ in the playoffs against the Steelers you'd know that arm strength is not a concern with Brady anymore. Developing timing with the new guys is the big concern. I'm gonna love seeing Brady to Stallworth. :)

    Just a little off-topic but can you imagine how awesome the Pats offense will be under Madden this year?? A more mature Maroney plus the weapons we've signed to catch for Brady! Just drooling at the thought of it, can't wait to buy Madden 08.
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    I hope someone we hate is on the cover! :D
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    I made the move on '07 the other day to get all of our new guys onto the roster. It automatically puts Stallworth as one of the KR men. He has blazing speed on the game. Thomas, however was not a force on defense, just yet. Welker was great in the 5 WR set with his moves in the slot either in or out.
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    Of course.

    Accuracy is the question. At least to a first approximation.

    However, some lively discussion here suggests that that may be oversimplified and misleading ...
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    Brady's deep ball is not good at all. It tends to sail and he doesn't have good velocity. He arcs it to get distance and it just doesn't work.

    The reason he overthrows so much is that if he didn't, it would get intercepted alot.

    That's why Belichick likes guys like Welker who can get open in the slot for 5-10 yard catches. He knows that's brady's strong point.
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    Remind us who your team is, you pointless troll?
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    Contrary viewpoints are not tolerated! Unless you drink the kool-aid, you can't post here! Brady's deep ball is impecable!

    Anyone who's seen it knows it's not his strong suit.
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    Manning has been throwing to Harrison and Wayne for years, or course they are gonna be on the same page all the time. Brady has not had the same consistancy in offenseive players
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    You're talking about the accuracy of a QB. A WR cant change that. Donte might beable to make better plays for the ball, but the accuracy is all about the QB.

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