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  1. IcyPatriot

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    #87 Jersey

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    it will be someone not even on that list
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    As far as that goes Obama is here for 8 years ... I am fairly certain of that.
    I just thought it was cool that a media outlet nailed the election 2 times in a row.
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    2012 US Presidential Election:

    Piyush Jindal (R) vs Barack Obama (D)

    Punjabi Indian (R) vs Kenyan African (D)


    BIRTH CERTIFICATE NOT REQUIRED :D


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    They should each have a superscript footnote saying the date/time of their final poll, especially the tracking polls. They're all predicated on "if the election were held today," so you could have a 2-3 day spread on when the final poll is taken.

    But pretty cool, yeah.

    PFnV
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    question posed by many on November 3, 2008: Yes, the Republican party really is THAT stupid. In the face of one of the toughest challenges this country has faced in years, instead of being part of the solution the RNC is seeking to fan the flames of partisanshp and keep America divided...even the guy who defines partianship is objecting.

    I can only hope they'll keep it up. It will provide a great deal of humorous distraction and ensure their party is even more marginalized next election.
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    "Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich isn’t happy with the Republican National Committee.

    In a letter addressed Tuesday to Mike Duncan, chairman of the RNC, Gingrich slams the committee for releasing a recent Web video that seeks to connect Obama to embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    In a nearly three-minute spot entitled “Questions Remain,” the RNC seeks to raise questions about involvement by Obama or his staff in Blagojevich’s alleged plan to award Obama’s former Senate seat in exchange for political favors.

    Gingrich calls the video a “destructive distraction” and asserts that the national committee “is engaged in the sort of negative, attack politics that the voters rejected in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.”

    Instead, “Republicans should be working to help the incoming president succeed in meeting” the “real challenges” the nation is facing, Gingrich writes to Duncan. When Republicans believe Obama is wrong, the GOP should “offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him,” Gingrich also wrote.

    The letter ends with Gingrich’s suggestion that the RNC “pull the ad down immediately.”

    Gingrich’s letter echoes recent comments from Obama’s former rival, Sen. John McCain. In a television interview Sunday, McCain also took issue with the video.

    “In all due respect to the Republican National Committee,” McCain said, “right now, I think we should try to be working constructively together . . . on the economy stimulus package, reforms that are necessary.”

    The RNC has not responded to CNN’s request for comment+
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    How about we let the guy who just won, actually take office before we start talking about the next election.
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    It's been a long time since I've agreed with RW on something but this time (cringe) I'm all in favor of it.

    PS, answer to the thread's question... the favorite's Barack Obama.
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    My sentiments exactly. We all need to stop and smell some roses or roasting chestnuts, maybe a fresh-cut spruce tree in the living room for Christmas. Something nice.

    OP needs to get life, eh!

    ;)

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    There's got to be a Vegas line on this....:cool:
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    :eek: Make sure you use extra soap tonight, when you shower. You must feel dirty all over! :D
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    And this is based on _________?
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    Since my posts are so verbose, I'll not bore you with history. Suffice it to say, incumbents are at a significant advantage when running for president.

    Also, he'll be running against another slope-browed, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing inbred, if the GOP doesn't get it together.

    But make it easy for us... SARAH! SARAH! SARAH!

    PFnV
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    There was only one reason Barack Obama was elected: George Bush.

    Even with George Bush, it took an enormous amount of resources to elect Obama.

    It took $750,000,000

    It also took the concerted effort of the entire mainstream media: NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, Washington Post.

    And even then, Obama was behind in the poll until mid-October with the collapse of Bears Stearn, Lehman, and Merrill Lynch.

    For 2012, I see Mitt Romney as the GOP nominee, with Bobby Jindal as his running mate. There is no more Sarah Palin to bash.

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    I think palin partially because i want her 2 win. Palin 2012!!
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    If you're referring to the bailout Bush and company came up with, to even be in the right order of magnitude, you're missing three zeroes. Don't forget the pork the House Republicans needed to be able to "stomach" the bill... it ended up north of $800 bn.

    If you mean he raised more funds than McCain, you're right. One question to Republicans complaining about being out-funded... hey, what's that like? :)

    You're looking at your president until 2016, unless you get it together boys.

    And I do sincerely hope the Republican party takes to heart the idea that they were just out-fund-raised, combined with various accidents of history, and the Bush presidency (which will not be in point -- though that never stopped a Republican from running against Clinton in an alternate timeline.)

    I would love for the Republican party to ignore demographic shifts, and throw their lot in with the religious right and what McCain once called the "agents of intolerance." I think they need another beat-down before they really get serious about reformulating the "base."

    For the time being, however, I sincerely hope that the incoming administration, centrist as they have been thus far, is able to make substantial progress, and to frame progress in a centrist narrative. I think that is just what Obama's team will be able to do.

    A good example would be robust regulation in the financial sector. When we come out of the next year to two years' horrific economy, we will by definition be beginning another cycle of relative market confidence. But it will not be guaranteed that we will embrace (again) a lurching casino economy, or that we will embrace robust regulation. I have come to favor the latter, and I believe the latter will be the outcome. We will see.

    These are the sorts of longer-term, structural things we don't think about in our little word-wars, and I would like to think a serious man like Obama would think in those terms. Again, we will see.

    Who will finally have the stomach for the solutions to our demographic bubble among the aging? Who will have the stomach to alert us to the fact that we can't just cut taxes more every year?

    Only the fringe guys like Ron Paul -- whose views outside of fiscal conservatism are laughable at best -- or a real-life president? These are some of the things we have to think about looking (way) forward. These are the questions that become relevant once we're back from the Bush brink.

    I'd urge us all to wish our next President success in these decisions, whether we voted for him or not. Maybe we will even get to a point where we think the long-term, serious issues transcend our bickering.

    Looking around here, I don't think we have much chance of that. But once more, as I keep saying, we will see.

    It's an exciting time, to me. Maybe it's all more of the same, but it feels like it's not.

    PFnV
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    It doesn't matter WHY he won. What's important is that he's in and now has a chance to show the people why he's the right man for the job. Based upon what I see from him thus far, it's doubtful the masses will be unhappy with him after 4 years.

    We even see Fox News beginning to show him a LOT of support. He's one of the brightest and most eloquent speaking presidents in my 49 years, I'll bet you any amount that Vegas already has him as a HUGE favorite to win in 2012.

    Seriously, anyone who doesn't like Obama needs to start preparing themselves for 8 years. And if Palin wins the nomination in 2012, the Republican party will embaress themselves in front of the entire nation and won't have a chance for another 8 years...if that happens.

    Sarah Palin.... :rofl: :rofl:

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