So where will Pass fit in? Will he? 3wks to decide

[tailgater]

Pass comes off the PUP list this week, right? That gives the Pats 3 weeks to determine if there's a roster spot for him or not.

Given Garrett Mills current lack of playing time, could this be the end for Pass, or did they open up a roster spot for him with the release of Sullivan?

 

[Alk]

I think Pass sealed his fate when he donned the 83 skullcap in the lockerroom after Branch was traded.

 

[QB12]

I'm listening to Bill's press conference right now, live, and I caught him saying some complimentary things about Pass, and distinctly heard him say Pass is an 'everydown' back. My impression was that Pass could/would add a dimension that is currently missing from the offense.

QB12

 

[shmessy]

Thanks for the Valedictory Touchdown Pass Reception, Heath.

Best of luck.

 

[shmessy]

BTW, folks, there's something rarely spoken about Pass that I posted a few weeks back. This offseason, he had surgery on his foot to correct a condition he's had since his last year at Georgia. From the article in the offseason I read, it evidently affected his acceleration and only now the medical technology has improved enough to do a surgery that is seen as probably doing more good than harm for his speed.

I'm very interested to see how this all plays out.

 

[Bertil]

There currently is a roster spot open...

 

[WhiZa]

depending on how long Graham is out, you could move Evans to the 3rd TE and Pass as the new FB.

 

[desi-patsfan]

I dont see pass leaving. Especially since we have an extra roster spot. Mills is still a bit of a confusion since he really hasnt had a chance to do anything. David Thomas also hasnt done much but when he gets in there he always seems to make a good catch.

 

[belichickaholic]

Thanks for the Valedictory Touchdown Pass Reception, Heath.

Best of luck.

Please don't let them cut Heath Evans. That guy has tremendous heart and never fumbles. While Pass thinks he's part of the team by sitting in the medical room, and he thinks the football is a hot potato!!

 

[RayClay]

I'm listening to Bill's press conference right now, live, and I caught him saying some complimentary things about Pass, and distinctly heard him say Pass is an 'everydown' back. My impression was that Pass could/would add a dimension that is currently missing from the offense.

QB12

If he's going to be an every down back it won't be here. TRADE?

 

[patsox23]

This offseason, he had surgery on his foot to correct a condition he's had since his last year at Georgia. From the article in the offseason I read, it evidently affected his acceleration and only now the medical technology has improved enough to do a surgery that is seen as probably doing more good than harm for his speed.

I'm very interested to see how this all plays out.

Hadn't heard that. Interesting. Where did you read about that? Hope Pass comes back with even more to offer.

 

[Alk]

If he's going to be an every down back it won't be here. TRADE?

That's what I was thinking when I read that. Sounds like Belichick is trying to increase his trade value just a little.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

From Miguel's FAQ page:

"For a three (3) week period beginning with the day after the club's 6th regular season game and ending on the day after the 9th regular season game, a player on PUP may practice with his club and/or be restored to the club's 53 man roster (provided it is done before the day after the 9th regular season game). "

So we still have almost two weeks before Pass is eligible to come off PUP and three weeks thereafter before he has to be activated or IR'd. So no decision needs to be made or roster spot taken up (unless they want to) for almost 5 more weeks.

 

[Brownfan80]

It's nice that Bill's being so kind about Pass, and it's nice that he's healed from his Hammy injury and apparently has his foot fixed up, but unless his v*gina has closed up I'm still not sold on him.

But hey, he was looking pretty good a while back before his injury. Who knows.

 

[shmessy]

It's nice that Bill's being so kind about Pass, and it's nice that he's healed from his Hammy injury and apparently has his foot fixed up, but unless his v*gina has closed up I'm still not sold on him.

But hey, he was looking pretty good a while back before his injury. Who knows.

Facts are pretty inconvenient, ain't they Brownfan80?
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Per NFL.com player pages:

Patrick Pass: 6 years, 3 fumbles, 1 lost

Troy Brown: 14 years, 17 fumbles, 6 lost
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Methinks we have alot of superficialism on this board when it comes to Patrick Pass and that one egregious play last year. This kid is still young, he knows the offense and special teams and he just had corrective surgery on a foot problem that held him back since college.

Heath Evans and his 1.9 ypc avg this year to go along with his mediocre blocking can't compare. He seems like a nice kid and I wish him well.

 

[JoeSixPat]

BTW, folks, there's something rarely spoken about Pass that I posted a few weeks back. This offseason, he had surgery on his foot to correct a condition he's had since his last year at Georgia. From the article in the offseason I read, it evidently affected his acceleration and only now the medical technology has improved enough to do a surgery that is seen as probably doing more good than harm for his speed.

I'm very interested to see how this all plays out.

Doesn't Pass help out on Special Teams as well?

There's definately a role for him - the fact that Brady has thrown to Heath Evans as much as he has should tell you that.

If by some chance they did the unthinkable and let him go he'd get snatched up by the Browns, Jets, or even maybe Dallas. Heck, Weiss might even find a loophole letting him re-enroll in college to play at Notre Dame.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Methinks we have alot of superficialism on this board when it comes to Patrick Pass and that one egregious play last year.

Everyone got on his case when he fumbled after blowing his hamstring... they laughed when he said it felt like getting shot.

But I've both been shot in my thigh and blown a hamstring and Pass is speaking the truth.

No amount of football willpower could have prevented me from grasping the back of my thigh when I got shot, nor when I tore my hamstring - so that fumble is a non-issue for me

 

[brady2brown]

Facts are pretty inconvenient, ain't they Brownfan80?
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Per NFL.com player pages:

Patrick Pass: 6 years, 3 fumbles, 1 lost

Troy Brown: 14 years, 17 fumbles, 6 lost.

Some facts are very inconvenient. That's probably why you choose NOT to look at total number of touches. Brown has five times as many fumbles but carried the ball hundreds of times more often.

You also leave out that most of the time all Pass had to do is hold a ball when handed to him. He didn't get hammered by defensive players out-weighing him by 75 pounds while he was trying to catch the ball. Brown made his living out in the flats, getting whacked.

This isn't an indictment of Pass. He's under-rated for sure. But he fumbles more often than Brown and at least one of those times for no apparent reason.

 

[shmessy]

Some facts are very inconvenient. That's probably why you choose NOT to look at total number of touches. Brown has five times as many fumbles but carried the ball hundreds of times more often.

You also leave out that most of the time all Pass had to do is hold a ball when handed to him. He didn't get hammered by defensive players out-weighing him by 75 pounds while he was trying to catch the ball. Brown made his living out in the flats, getting whacked.

This isn't an indictment of Pass. He's under-rated for sure. But he fumbles more often than Brown and at least one of those times for no apparent reason.

Wrong. 1) Apples to Apples: In the first 6 years of each career, the number of touches (including ST's) between Brown and Pass are actually very close. 2) The weight disparity between the tacklers and the ballhandler are about the same: Brown-LB's and CB's vs. Pass-DT's and DE's.

Furthermore, the average number of receptions per year in Brown's first 6 years was 16.83. My point is not to compare Patrick Pass to Troy Brown who is probably one of the 10 greatest career Patriots of all time (along with Nance, Capelletti, Hannah, Morgan, Tippett, Bledsoe, Armstrong, Brady and Nelson). My point is to show that the harping and whining on this board about that one play by some superficial observers is bogus to the nth degree.

As he begins his 6th season, Patrick Pass just had corrective surgery on a foot that has hampered him since college. I wish I could find the article I read this summer where his doctors said that the procedure could well improve his speed and acceleration.

It's incredible how so many here are willing to send him packing in favor of "1.9 yards and a cloud of dust" Evans. Belichikaholic saying that he has "tremendous heart and never fumbles" is hilarious. I know thousands of football players who can fall down after getting a handoff in a heap and hold onto the ball. Is Evans as good a ST tackler as Pass? Is he as good a lead blocker? (Ask Corey Dillon in 2004 what Pass meant to him that year). Can Evans catch 50 passes out of the backfield and average over 9 yards per catch as Patrick Pass has done the past 2 years?

 

[Digger44]

Wrong. In the first 6 years of each career, the number of touches (including ST's) between Brown and Pass are actually very close.

Furthermore, the average number of receptions per year in Brown's first 6 years was 16.83. As he begins his 6th season, Patrick Pass just had corrective surgery on a foot that has hampered him since college. I wish I could find the article I read this summer where his doctors said that the procedure could well improve his speed and acceleration. It's incredible how so many here are willing to send him packing in favor of "1.9 yards and a cloud of dust" Evans.

My point is not to compare Patrick Pass to Troy Brown who is probably one of the 10 greatest career Patriots of all time (along with Nance, Capelletti, Hannah, Morgan, Tippett, Bledsoe, Armstrong, Brady and Nelson). My point is to show that the harping and whining on this board about that one play by some superficial observers is bogus to the nth degree.

Just a question: If they were "very close", then why wouldn't you actually list them? To go through all the trouble of looking them up and not listing them makes no sense. How close is "very close"?