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So Whats The Penalty For The Jets Filming Our D Last Sunday?

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  1. BigMike

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    I mean, turnabouts fair play, right? Thanks to CBS, we have screen shots of "Al" The Loyal Jets employee filming away ONLY when THe Pats D was on the field.

    Rest not, fellow Pats fans - we will continue to push this!!!!
     
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    It depends on how serious the public outcry is.

    That's evidently a huge factor in Goodell's decision-making about punishments.
     
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    Get it straight. It is the act of filming that is illegal and what the Patriots got bagged for. Even if he was filming the cheerleaders he broke the same rule so the punishment is the same. We don’t have to prove intent, just that he is a Jets guy and that he was there. That’s it. Don't stop
     
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    Nothing, unless we bombard the media to look into it.

    We can't let this die.

    You wanna know how to get Mangina?

    They pull a knife, you pull a gun.

    He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.

    That's the New England way! And that's how you get Magina.

    Now do you want to do that?

    Are you ready to do that?

    I'm offering you a deal.

    Do you want this deal?
     
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    Get it straight, ok asstool, Ill get it straight.

    Mangini, Dec 16th we are looking forward to you!
     
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    We are on the same side. But its filming that is the infraction not intent. The rule is about filming not stealing. No offense intended.
     
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    He's going to need serious security when he comes to Gillete. I would not double cross a man such as Bill. Retribution will happen.
     
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    Had to move this up again (and before we got off topic) since it sums up three current threads pretty nicely. There's clearly a lot of proof on this site from multiple independant users that there was a Jets employee with a video camera on the sidelines last weekend. Indisputable proof. Now if we are correct that the current NFL rule, which the Patriots were just punished for breaking, is that teams are not allowed to have video cameras on the field then it seems pretty clear cut that the J E T S Jets Jets Jets are in violation. Not to mention even more evidence of them only shooting the field while the Pats were on defense. We as Patriot fans owe it to this team to not let this be swept under the rug by the media because they only want to crucify BB and the Pats as the Evil Overlords of the NFL.

    If I'm wrong in my above assumptions, if I am misinterpreting the rules in any way, someone please tell me. Because we could be sitting on something big right here.
     
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    If he is a Jets employee as I was told by the media (see the sticky thread incorrectly stating this was debunked)

    If our understanding of the rules is correct that a team employee can not record from the field, only three locations

    This is a slam dunk and the Jets should get the exact same punishment. I will not rest until this is finished. Either proof he is not a Jest employee or if he is, the rules showing how he can be there or the same punishment. 3 options. We can make a differance
     
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    If the media ignores this, then you can be sure that this was just a 'bring down the giant' sting operation. Ridiculous.

    Also, it'd be interesting to see how many other 'unaccounted for' camera men have shown up on other sidelines in the past year, or even in the past weekend of games.

    The Pats were clearly NOT the only guilty party. Yet they give up a first round pick while no one else even gets called out??

    Show me where to email, I want to make a difference.
     
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    Mangini did not think this out. His team was getting killed and he knew that he would get killed the next day in the press. So he ratted out his mentor.

    That does not mean he was not doing what his mentor taught him to do.

    That guy is a Jets employee and someone needs to get this info to someone who can do something about it.
     
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    I just emailed Reiss again, sent to his mailbag. It might take a while for him to read it but I figure he's gotta to at least take a look at some point. We need to continue to bombard Florio. I fear that he's been so anti Patriot the last week, and with people here saying to never link to him again, he might be ready willing and able to ignore this completely. Have Patriots Planet or NEM's site caught onto this? Perhaps those who have accounts there, or don't mind creating new ones, can link to this thread. We have to unite Patriots nation!

    I am off to google to see if I can't find the exact rule.
     
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    Alright so I think this is the key thing:

    By NFL rule every videographer and still photogapher has to be in either a red or black vest. This guy should be in a black vest. Even if he's with Jets Total Access or "Kickin' it wit' Mangenius". I'm still not 100% sure it's a Jets polo he has one. But either he's a Jets employee or a videographer who somehow got out of wearing the league mandated black vest.

    So the question remains... WHO IS HE!?!?!?!?!?!
     
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    Like I said in the other thread he responded to me saying he didnt think there was much to this. I respect his opinion so I am moving on.
     
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    That photo with him by Mangini looks like they are wearing the same shirt. By not wearing a vest he broke the rule. At least the Patriots guy has the vest on. They should lose an extra draft pick for not having the vest on.
     
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    I was told by a TV station in town he was a Jets employee. Im not ready to lay down yet.
     
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    Of course nobody will look into it. It's all about screwing the Pats.
     
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    Fight the good fight bro. Lets explore all avenues. I for on though am exhausted and moving on.
     
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    Actually, I think the one that got BB whacked was the filming of defensive signals.............

    No matter, I think we have a few screen-caps of Mr. Manstrella filming AWAY from the action on the field and in the direction of the patriots bench at the exact moment that defensive signal were being given.
     
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