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  1. BelichickFan

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    Who will be Franchised by Cincy. Bedard says he would have been a top target and his info wasn't from throwing darts as a dartboard.

    Just curious what the feeling is around here that this means.

    Just an opportunity to get a player they really like ?

    Want a true bookend for Chandler with Nink being a situational player ?

    Looking for a final solution at LDE with Nink hitting FA in 12 months ?

    Here's the tweets, FYI :

    Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard

    DE Michael Johnson would have been a top target for the Patriots. Bengals will tag him

    followed by :

    Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard

    Not a dartboard RT @SashV_: wheres that comment coming from about Patriots and Johnson?
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    I really hope that's true. Hopefully this means Bellichick has finally gotten sick of the weak pass rush.
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    I'm just relieved to know that Belichick wants to upgrade at LDE. If not Johnson, then someone else.
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    If true then I doubt we see much change at the WR position as most are expecting major overhauls.

    Money needs to be spent on the past rush and/or coverage. We still have an extremely dynamic offense which was anything but complete last season with 2 of our biggest threats missing half the season and Vereen not truly emerging until late.
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    The problem now is that there aren't really many starting LEs available. Johnson was a good candidate. Michael Bennett is probably the only LE left on the market that I'd have interest as a starter. Other than that, the Pats would be picking from guys who need to play OLB (Kruger, Spencer), a pure speed guy who doesn't defend the run (Avril), and a bunch of older, more situational rushers (Freeney, Abraham, Umenyiora).
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    If this is a direction they're looking at then Michael Bennett could be a target. Strong run defender and good pass rusher in the early part of his prime at 27 and not expected to be tagged.
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    You beat me on him - time to start looking at DE in the draft I guess, starting with enormous Margus Hunt.
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    Id be surprised if the Bucs dont tag him. It looks as though they have alot of cap room (over 30 mil.) and no other big time free agents. 11.1 mil for Bennett for one season may be steep, but it would keep the Bucs in control. I wonder if they do target a someone to start opposite Jones if Ninks time is up. 2.5 cap hit this season and a UFA after this season.

    Would like to see the Pats improve the pressure from the middle of the line as well. Melton, Randy Starks or Des Bryant would be nice.
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    Well easy answer to this question is don't pass over the guy in the draft when you had a chance to draft him. I can't stand how BB talks up these players that he passes over in the draft time and time again.
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    Considering that the Pats' last pick before Johnson was Vollmer, I think passing over him worked out just fine.
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    What I am hearing from people that are ususally reliable down here in Tampa is that the Bucs and Bennett are not close, and he'll likely become a free agent.
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    I think there's a good chance the Pat's target him. He's a Rosevelt Colvin type.
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    Thank you Captain Hindsight.

    Could it occur to you that occassionally, the Patriots will not hit on all of their picks, while other teams may or may not have the occassional hit as well.

    OR

    The Pats are allocated 7 picks a year and tend to have a few more choices than that and the given playing career of a competent player is 6 years or less, that there are more than 42 competent players in the league at any one time, so praising a player not on the Patriots for being more than bottom of the roster situational churn is not unusual especially given Belicheck's demosntrated history of almost never saying anything negative about a player no matter the situation (A. Thomas, A. Haynesworth for example).

    I'm fairly sure that if Belicheck was ever asked for a comment on my soon to be collecting Social Security mother, he would talk her up like a valued contributor for his opponent next week who could bloom into Pro-Bowl contention if she worked hard enough and had the opportunity to stay healthy....
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    Clearly anyone who has read my posts this off season knows I am a big fan of this news.
    I consider improving the pass rush to be the #1 way to get this team over the top.
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    is there a point to this spamming?
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    At the start of the offseason I though Johnson would be a perfect fit for this team opposite Chandler Jones, just not a very realistic one. Whether he got the Franchise tag or a big contract I think he was out of the Pats price range. It is however encouraging to see us having interest in a guy like him. While I don't think we will find another guy like this in free agency (Michael Bennett is likely to be way overpaid now with little DE competition) there are some interesting options in the draft. Tank Carradine is the one who immediately stands out to me, and he could go anywhere from the 1st round to the 3rd round. Other guys that could be decent value if they fall into the 2nd or later on are Alex Okafor, Sam Montgomery, Cory Lemonier, Cornelius Washington, Devin Taylor and Williams Gholston.
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    It looks like the moron filters have again been removed from the new members vetting process.

    Come on Ian, sort it out! :p

    As for Captain Spammer up there, Sciz had it right - they took Vollmer instead of Johnson. What's your point?

    Saying that, I do disagree with Sciz about Cliff Avril. He's a terrific all round player.
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