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  1. TomBrady'sGoat

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    This is the week leading up to a game and I see little discussion of the opponent. I know very little about KC and would like to know what to look for on Sunday.

    What do hey do well? What do they do poorly? Who the heck is their quarterback? How does Herm still have a job?

    So please, feel free to discuss Kansas City here.
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    They will be wearing red and white hopefully ..:cool:
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    And will be praying to beat the Dolphins '07 record... lol
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    I hate the state of Kansas.

    that is all you need to know.
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    That's fascinating. The Chiefs play in Missouri.
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    What's that got to do with Kansas City, Mo. or the Chiefs?
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    They had an incredible draft but I dont know if Dorsey or Albert is healthy. Watch for CB Flowers, he was Mayock's favorite CB coming out. I also like J.Charles, Larry Johnson's backup. They have BIG recievers, but the QB/OL are questionable at best.
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    I watched some of the Kansas City vs. Miami preseason game, and the Dolphins dominated with starters and the reserves was no different. While the Dolphins are improved, they are far short of mediocre.

    Kansas City cannot pass protect, can't throw the ball to anyone but Gonzolez, showed no evidence of road-grader run-blocking like they used to do, and on D they seem to have problems with crossing routes and in containing inside runs.

    In theory, this is a good tune-up, like when Ohio State starts with Youngstown State.

    In theory, that is. Yes, I know all about any given Sunday, and our injury issues, yadda yadda yadda.
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    Also they traded away maybe the best pass rusher in the league. 5 years ago their OL was the best in the league but they got old.
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    One thing I did read somewhere (I'll come back and post a link if I can find it) is that they are giving their offense and QB more freedom this year. Specifically, last year their QB could not audible - when they called the play, they ran that play, even if it was doomed from the start. This year Herm is giving Croyle the okay to audible and change plays based on what the defense is showing. If that is the case, then it will make it a bit more difficult for BB to game plan as there will be no regular season film, just this year's preseason games to see how the KC offense reacts in those situations.

    On the KC OL, they are going to start Brandon Albert at LT - a rookie who missed all of TC and played guard at Virginia last year. I would imagine that this would be an area that the Pats should be able to exploit. Preventing Brodie Croyle from having time to throw will limit the effectiveness of WR Dwayne Bowe and TE Tony Gonzalez.

    Albert will be one of four rookies starting for KC, along with DT Glen Dorsey, CB Brandon Flowers, and FB Mike Cox.

    At RB, the Chiefs big question will be whether they are going to give us the 2007 or 2005-6 version of Larry Johnson.
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    Their QB is pretty raw

    their o-line except for the left guard Brian Waters, is a mess, although their rookie Branden Albert could be good

    Larry Johnson has been a stud for them, but Herm has run him into the ground

    They have a GREAT young receiver in Dwayne Bowe, the guy is just plain nasty

    Tony Gonzalez you've probably heard of

    lots of young defensive talent - Glenn Dorsey, Turk McBride, Tank Tyler, Tamba Hali - thats a pretty decent defensive line now and should only get better

    other than that, I don't think there's too much to write home about, if we play the way we should then there's no way we don't come out with a win.
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    They will run Johnson till he is blue in the face and tired,Then throw the ball to Bowe for a bit but you have to think they will try and go with the run since they truly have no real great QB and have always had a decent rushing attack with Holmes back then and now Johnson
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    They have the longest active losing streak (9) in the NFL.

    Their 4 wins last year were...

    vs Vikings
    @ San Diego
    vs Bengals
    @ Raiders (October 21st, their last win)

    Their starting QB Brodie Croyle has never won a game in his NFL career. (0-6)

    Larry Johnson was an absolute beast from '05-'06. However, he only started 8 games last year with a 3.5 YPC before suffering a season ending foot injury in Week 9 against the Packers.

    They play to win the game.
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    Herm Edwards is a master at clock management.
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    In one episode of the Simpsons, Abraham Simpson was hanging a flag... Bart said to Him, You can't hang that up, It only has 49 stars... Grandpa Abraham Simpson's response: "I'll be in the deep, cold, cold, ground before I recognize Missoura!"
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    Yes, I know every team changes from year to year, but here are a few team stats from last year. Perhaps a glimpse at what KC is decent - and not so good at.


    OFFENSE
    Points per Game: Pats 36.8 (1); KC 14.1 (31)
    Yards per Game: Pats 411.2 (1); KC 276.8 (31)
    Passing ypg: Pats 295.7 (1); KC 198.8 (20)
    Rushing ypg: Pats 115.6 (13); KC 78.0 (32)
    Total Touchdowns: Pats 75 (1); KC 24 (T31)

    DEFENSE
    Points Per Game: Pats 17.1 (4); KC 20.9 (14)
    Yards Per Game: Pats 288.3 (4); KC 319.4 (13)
    Passing YPG: KC 188.9 (5); Pats 190.1 (6)
    Rushing YPG: Pats 98.2 (10); KC 130.6 (28)
    Total Touchdowns: KC 33 (T8); Pats 34 (10)
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    Hoim Edwards...all you have to know about KC
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    I think everyone in America outside Kansas City is looking waaaaaay past this game. A tight contest wouldn't surprise me.
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    Only if Brady doesn't play and / or Hannah brings windy and wet conditions.
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    Just stack the box.
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    I think we're in for a bit of a shootout early anyway. Bowe is an excellent WR & if this revamped OL can hold it's own at all they at least stand a chance. Assuming Brady is fine we should be able to score at will though & as a fantasy owner of LJ I'm just not willing to start him against the boys in blue this week.
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    Whooops. ;)
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    Even if you buy what's being sold about the defensive backs, the front seven of the Patriots should be able to control, if not dominate, the KC O line. I can't see Croyle turning this into a shoot out especially if he has to do so from his back most of the day.

    I could see the Patriots "struggling" through a little bit of rust at first, but Kansas City is just too young, too bad and too poorly coached to really take advantage of a slow start. Patriots win "31-10"-ish.
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    KC will be beaten by 31 points that is all I know about them
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    Im calling 28-7. Cassel throws the last TD in the 4th after they pull Brady cause they realize Herm is coaching with the "Football for Dummies" handbook like in the "Waterboy"
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    The only thing they have going for them on offense is Larry Johnson and Gonzalez. That's about it. That team is in complete rebuild mode.
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    The Chiefs have already scripted thier first 6 plays.

    Run, run, run, punt, run, run.

    After that, they might pass. But they will probably run.
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    Saying 'Cassel throwing' and 'TD' in the same sentence is not possible.
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    There's a problem with an offense when it's best players are ones that are dependent upon others to get them the ball. Bowe is only as good as Croyle. Herm is going to play to win the game by running at the best 2-gap line in recent memory.

    The offense should light that defense up. Nothing better than a nilla wafer cover-2 without the personel to execute the scheme. Should be fun!
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