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  1. Harry Boy

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    These are on Drudge headlines, I couldn't get "silent networks" so many people were hitting on it.

    HOUSTON EARLIEST SNOWFALL -- EVER...
    Study: Slowdown in warming last year not permanent...
    Rep. Issa: White House refusal to investigate 'Climategate' is 'unconscionable'...
    Day Fourteen and Counting: Major U.S. Networks Still Silent...
    Danish Speaker of Parliament: Climate Change 'Very Dangerous Claim'...
    Denmark: not as green as you thought...
    DRUDGE REPORT 2010®
     
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    It has been a bad week for the MMGW alarmists. They continue to be exposed as the frauds they are. Thankfully, society is finally catching on.
     
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    Actually, that simply isn't true.
     
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    Only to people who confuse cherry-picked sentences with actual science. You guys still can't refute the science so you accept a smear tactic in lieu of rational arguments. Classic!
     
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    Funny how Drudge did not notice the record highs here yesterday... it was 66degrees and balmy.....
     
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    Which 'actual science' is that the 'science' that used cherry picked tree ring and corrupted data sets?

    The science that blocked authors from publishing studies not favorable to the AGW thesis?

    The science that that predicted warming this decade when we have had cooling?

    That 'science'.. :singing:
     
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    :ugh: You make arguments by repeating wrong things over and over and over. Or rather, don't make arguments.

    Climatologists under pressure : Article : Nature
     
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    "We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces... I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir." - Carl Sagan, Demon Haunted World (Science as a candle in the dark).
     
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    Nature of course was one of the magazines whose editors were in the bag for the CRU/RealClimate cabal I am shocked they are ignoring the emails about censoring papers that were submitted.

    BTW the Society of Statisticians determined that the methods used by Mann were flawed and M&M critique was on target.


    BTW where did the predicted warming go ?
     
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    So Harry a little climategate update for you.

    Remember when the slur used against leading scientist like Lizden, Spencer, M&M, Tim Ball and others that the "took money from big oil". Even Exxon Oh the horror.

    Well it turns out the hypocrites at the CRU were meeting with and getting $$$ from ......BIG OIL!!!!!!!!!!

    the emails below:

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    How the climate cheats were accusing their critics of doing what they were doing.
     
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    Hey Harry here is an article from Australia about the guy who may be the whistleblower at CRU, the guy Boxer would like to throw in jail for revealing the fraud behind the AGW scare:

    Climategate: Which one blew the whistle? | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog


    A mathematician caught false data used from Chinese temp gathering stations. The CRU RC boys knew the guy was right but denounced him and questioned his motives. Really gives an insight on the lengths these guy went to to hide the truth.
     
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    Um, and this means what? Clearly their research is contraditory to Big Oil's best interests so there is NO danger of the funding in any way influencing the science.
     
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    1) You see conspiracies everywhere, with no direct evidence of anything and only hapless surmise to support your conclusions.
    2) Mann's findings have been independently confirmed by several groups. The results are correct, but there were some errors in how they got there (not major). See the wikipedia article for more on that.
    3) The ice sheets are melting, dude. Open your eyes.
    4) You are that person Sagan is talking about.
    5) No response to the SA article. Nice. You are the hysterical denier.
     
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    If Nature were anything but in the bag for the CRU/RC crew they wouldn't use the word deniers to describe scientist who disagree witht he notion of GW. BTW Nature shows up in the emails as an ally of the cabal no need to look for a conspiracy the fraudsters out themselves.


    UUUUHHHHno they wern't, they were confirmed by his allies and them he confirmed their findings and round and round we go. We also know the data was tampered with and the statistical method used were mathematically invalid see math is not subject to opinion it is a matter of proofs and correct caculations.

    Thanks for playing not back to the Church of AGW and say a few more prayers to ManBearPig.
     
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    Well when the AGW boys were refusing to release data that was later destroyed, they didn't answer scientific criticisms of their work by saying the critics were getting money from Big Oil and therefore they weren't objective and had no standing. They also said their papers weren't peer reviewed, whiole at the same time they were conspiring to keep their parers out of the peer review journals, and by extension out of the IPCC journals.
     
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    How inane. The more likely conclusion is that they think climate change is very real and the opponents of the idea have no arguments or scince to back them up. :ugh:

    Cabal? You have got to be kidding. Is the NOAA part of the cabal, too?

    Global Warming Is Irreversible, Study Says : NPR

    It was not invalid, but it was not perfect. The conclusions were correct and have been validated.

    Church? And you have so little evidence of anything? The lady doth protest too much (if you even know what that means.) :ugh:
     
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    It's not the getting some money, it's the wholly funded by Big Oil part. These guys are in no way anywhere close to receiving the same amount of money, and it's obvious that their results are not in Big Oil's interest so there is nothing to criticize them for.

    Question: in the end, how much money did they receive? Or are you just drawing conclusions based on surmise again?
     
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    BIG OIL is getting a piece of the AGW scan who is getting the money for alt fuels ethanol and the like? haven't you seen the BP ads? Are you that naive/ill informed?
     
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