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Brady will be 40 in August. I'm thinking realistically. Nice classy comment though.
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IMO...
Pats will be willing to pay $7 mill next year for this part time player. But at $11 mill and $12 mill in '18 + '19, way too much for Bill the Economist
Gronk will absolutely NOT be a patriot after the 2017 season. He might not be one next year.
I'm done with him, football players play football and Gronkowski has not played enough of it
He hasn't done too poorly:
NFL records
Patriots franchise records
- Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game: 21 years, 214 days (2010, vs. Pittsburgh Steelers)
- Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game, playoffs: 22 years, 275 days (2011 playoffs, vs. Denver Broncos)
- Most touchdown receptions by a tight end, season: 17 (2011)
- Most touchdowns by a tight end, season: 18 (2011)
- First tight end to lead the league in receiving touchdowns (2011)
- Most receiving yards by a tight end, season: 1,327 (2011)
- Most offensive touchdowns in first two seasons: 28 (Tied with Randy Moss)
- Seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 5 (2010–12, 2014–15)
- Consecutive seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 3 (2010–12)
- First tight end to have 3 seasons with 10+ touchdowns and 1,000+ receiving yards (2011, 2014–15)[41]
- Most career postseason receiving touchdowns by a tight end: 9
- Most games with 100+ receiving yards by a tight end: 22
- Highest receiving yards per game average for a tight end (season): 82.9 (2011)
- Youngest Patriot with 3 touchdown receptions in a game: 21 years, 214 days (2010, vs. Pittsburgh Steelers)
- Youngest Patriot with 3 touchdown receptions in a game, playoffs: 22 years, 275 days (2011 playoffs, vs. Denver Broncos)
- Most career touchdown receptions: 69
That's all great, but the team needs him on the field...He hasn't done too poorly:
NFL records
Patriots franchise records
- Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game: 21 years, 214 days (2010, vs. Pittsburgh Steelers)
- Youngest player with 3 touchdown receptions in a game, playoffs: 22 years, 275 days (2011 playoffs, vs. Denver Broncos)
- Most touchdown receptions by a tight end, season: 17 (2011)
- Most touchdowns by a tight end, season: 18 (2011)
- First tight end to lead the league in receiving touchdowns (2011)
- Most receiving yards by a tight end, season: 1,327 (2011)
- Most offensive touchdowns in first two seasons: 28 (Tied with Randy Moss)
- Seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 5 (2010–12, 2014–15)
- Consecutive seasons with 10+ touchdowns by a tight end: 3 (2010–12)
- First tight end to have 3 seasons with 10+ touchdowns and 1,000+ receiving yards (2011, 2014–15)[41]
- Most career postseason receiving touchdowns by a tight end: 9
- Most games with 100+ receiving yards by a tight end: 22
- Highest receiving yards per game average for a tight end (season): 82.9 (2011)
- Youngest Patriot with 3 touchdown receptions in a game: 21 years, 214 days (2010, vs. Pittsburgh Steelers)
- Youngest Patriot with 3 touchdown receptions in a game, playoffs: 22 years, 275 days (2011 playoffs, vs. Denver Broncos)
- Most career touchdown receptions: 69
wow. sad but possible.With this year and 3 more, there is a good chance he is currently signed to his career ending deal.
I'd have to pass on this. The three years we have him for he is overpaid if he plays 8 games a year. If he plays 19-20 games next year then re-work it.As weird as it sounds, i would try to reach a 2-year extension no matter what, especially now, to reward him for his relentless efforts to come back from all those injuries and to let him know the club backs him and trusts in his long term value (which would certainly motivates him to come back and get ready for the first week of february), as long as Gronk himself "keeps the faith" and the doctors don't see too much of a risk for his long term health. I would totally respect if he starts to change his mind and feels football may no longer be worth putting his post-career health in jeopardy at this point of his HOF career.
The fact is a healthy Gronk is the most devastating weapon an offensive coordinator could dream of, and locking him for the rest of the Brady-Belichick window basically means giving the team another shot every year to get a difference maker available come january.
I'm sure Gronk and the Pats agree on this and they have been trying to reach a new deal so far. Gronk would have to accept less guaranteed money, and the Pats would certainly have to load his incentive (playing time / performance. / team success) up to what a durable and productive Gronk would virtually deserve (which is close to the top WR salary range objectively). I would feel OK with a new five year contract that creates an annual average ajusted cap hit (after calculating the LTBE/NLTBE bonuses at end of each season) that could vary from 7/8 to 12/13M$. 7/8M$ would be a high price to pay in the years Gronk ends his season on IR list, but 12/13M$, with the ever-rising salary cap, would be a bargain for 19 games of an All Pro / OPOY-caliber Gronk that helps us win another Lombardi (best case scenario).
I may be completely mistaken about the doability of such a deal let alone the actual chances of Gronk still being Gronk through the next five years, but that's my hope.
As weird as it sounds, i would try to reach a 2-year extension no matter what, especially now, to reward him for his relentless efforts to come back from all those injuries and to let him know the club backs him and trusts in his long term value (which would certainly motivates him to come back and get ready for the first week of february), as long as Gronk himself "keeps the faith" and the doctors don't see too much of a risk for his long term health. I would totally respect if he starts to change his mind and feels football may no longer be worth putting his post-career health in jeopardy at this point of his HOF career.
The fact is a healthy Gronk is the most devastating weapon an offensive coordinator could dream of, and locking him for the rest of the Brady-Belichick window basically means giving the team another shot every year to get a difference maker available come january.
I'm sure Gronk and the Pats agree on this and they have been trying to reach a new deal so far. Gronk would have to accept less guaranteed money, and the Pats would certainly have to load his incentive (playing time / performance. / team success) up to what a durable and productive Gronk would virtually deserve (which is close to the top WR salary range objectively). I would feel OK with a new five year contract that creates an annual average ajusted cap hit (after calculating the LTBE/NLTBE bonuses at end of each season) that could vary from 7/8 to 12/13M$. 7/8M$ would be a high price to pay in the years Gronk ends his season on IR list, but 12/13M$, with the ever-rising salary cap, would be a bargain for 19 games of an All Pro / OPOY-caliber Gronk that helps us win another Lombardi (best case scenario).
I may be completely mistaken about the doability of such a deal let alone the actual chances of Gronk still being Gronk through the next five years, but that's my hope.
I'd have to pass on this. The three years we have him for he is overpaid if he plays 8 games a year. If he plays 19-20 games next year then re-work it.
you mean this year?Unless the Pats win another SB with him on the field.
you mean this year?
So consider that, and that Gronkowski has long been dissatisfied with his contract—a now-outdated eight-year deal he did in 2012.
Wow we really signed Gronk for a while when you think about it.