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    Someone tell this maroon that it's that cheap because the government subsidizes the bill. It's not cheap because it only costs $45. It's $45 bucks because someone's hard earned tax "revenue" paid the difference. When Johhny Illegal goes to the ER and gets the same Xray, it's even cheaper than it is in France. Why? Cuz it's free.
     
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    yeah....

    OUR tax dollars go to $40.00 monogramed KBR towels.....and we call that capitalism? I'd much rather pay for someones x-ray than a mongramed towel.

    you people SERIOUSLY love no bid contract companies, and seem to $h!t all over the well being of humans. How can you see the 'dangers of socialism' when the exact same thing is happening with corporations, and you have no problem with it?


    SOCIALISM is good when it makes a CEO and a stockholder rich.

    SOCIALISM is bad when it makes a person healthy.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? What do no bid contracts and this moron who thinks an xray costs $45 in France have to do with each other? Who in here said that socialism of any kind is a good thing? Please don't quote me, and put words in my mouth, if you have no clue what I think, say, or am talking about. I think people in this country care more about random dogs than they do random people. I oppose any & all corporate welfare. To say that there's a no bid contract somewhere, so therefore we should pay for everyone's xray's is idiotic. We shouldn't be paying for everyone's xray's, and we shouldn't be blank checking any contracts. Two wrongs don't make a right. Where I might feel that everyone should be given medical care, I don't therefore think that it means I should pay their bill. So while I might think we have an obligation to finish the mess we created in Iraq, it doesn't mean I agree with everything related.
     
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    RW,

    sorry I hit the "quote button" on your thread, but meant it for FTWs.

    I agree with your post.
     
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    No worries my friend! All is well. I see healthcare for what it is. It's a complex, difficult, and costly animal that needs immidiate attention. It's different than most issues because it's a necessity. If gas cost a lot you can find ways to not use it, or use less. If food costs alot you can buy cheaper stuff. Most issues, while significant to our lives, and obviously important, aren't as cut and dry as medical attention. There isn't a cheaper store brand to buy, or a coupon to cut out. Buying a more gas efficient vehicle, or taking the bus doesn't work. Everyone needs access to care. Everyone currently has it, in the form of the ER, but that doesn't fix the problem of rising costs for those who pay premiums. Furthermore, simply having the government subsidize your bill doesn't fix it either. If your car breaks down and your buddy gives you a ride to work, you're car is still broken down when you get home. I'm not sure what the best course of action is. I think tort reforms could help significantly. I think eliminating illegal immgration would too. Obviously some regulatory measures could be taken with respect to capping costs. Everyone hates mandates, but maybe a mandate should at least be explored. I'm not to keen on forcing people to do things, but someone who has the means, shouldn't get care and expect everyone else to pay for it. Either way, difficult decisions have to made, and I don't think some people will be willing to make them. The bottom line is that there really isn't a model system anywhere. England's system is awful. Canada's covers everyone, but has had it's fair share of problems, and even in France, where they use a combination of private, and public care, the costs are at record levels and rising. What's the answer? I know that $539.98 for me per month is ridiculous. To think that governments pay 80+% of that for it's employees, and then passes that on to me. This planet is so broken.
     

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