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    and WEEI just reported that the Jets D coordinator said that they would cover Welker by committee. That team is just crazy. Plain and simple. They are just different. They do things differently. Nothing wrong with it. But it does leave me a little confused sometimes. :confused:
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    I don't know maybe I'm reaching here, but I could see Rex telling them to talk to reporters and tell them they had a bad practice even if they didn't. Maybe thinking it'll catch the pats by surprise? (which it won't)

    He could also be telling the truth and he want to out it out there now so they have an excuse if they lose?!?! This guy is a loose cannon, who knows what he's thinking.
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    well..personally thats nothing different than what bb says with "team defense". its more stupid to say x guy would cover welker ,not that it would be necessarily true.
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    I'm still trying to figure out why at any point during the offseason any one thought this was going to be a good team??? :confused2:
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    it WILL be entertaining only if the pats win.
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    My favorite part :

    As a result, the practice lasted about 10 minutes longer than usual
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    Wow! A true indication of just how serious Fat Rex is about this, because the extra 10 minutes cut significntly into his [g------] snack time.

    Whew - what a slave driver!
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    people saw the signings and the "maturation process of mark sanchez" ESPN's favorite phrase for any new or old QB who still sucks.
    they still could be. long way to go .pats started 0-2 in 2001 as well and a 31-0 shellacking in 2003.
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    I'm sorry. You're right. That was mean of me to denigrate Ms. Smith by comparing her to that train wreck of a team.
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    Not to go off on a rant, but if anyone at ESPN took the time to look up QB's rookie stats they would see that QB's almost always show exactly what they will be their rookie season. And he was terrible.

    Understood, but this isn't the 2001 or 2003 Patriots. Their coaching staff said it themselves they have no leaders! Not to mention this Jets team has zero character or mental toughness on offense.
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    not questioning you but what were manning's stats in the rookie season ? anyone have that info ?would be interesting too look.
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    Well if the Jest keep this up, it may be where Sexy Rexy is going next....:eek::eek::eek:
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    Ryan talked and talked, and talked. some more about how no one could defeat them. The team listen to the point i think they actually believed it to the point that they think they just have to throw their hats on the filed and they'll win.

    It Don't work that way BoyZ.
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    Code:
    NAME	       ATT	COMP	PCT	YDS	AVG	YDS/G	LONG	TD	TD%	INT	INT%	SACK	YDSL	RATE
    Peyton Manning	575	326	56.7	3739	6.5	0.0	78	26	4.5	28	4.9	22	109	71.2
    Notably, Manning completed 56.7% of his passes for 26 TD and 28 INT in 1998. The Colts went 3-13.

    I have no idea if you can tease out exactly how good he would end up being. Maybe somebody who saw him play back then would be able to chime in and say if they saw the future greatness of Manning.
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    Because they're the Jets... and they're from New York. The hype around this team every season is ridiculous. This year it was especially ridiculous because they somehow stumbled into the AFC Championship last season.
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    Then they ended up on a reality TV show called Hard Knocks....where they were the laughing stock of the NFL....

    Lets get a g** damn snack...
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    well..for one i doubt he had this great defense. i assume his college #s were much better too.
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    compare Sanchise

    2518 yds, 206 completions, 385 attempts (53% comp), 12 TD/20 INTs

    to Rick Mirer

    3016 yards, 291 completions, 514 attempts (56% comp), 13 TD/17 INTs
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    The comparisons to Sanchez's and Manning's rookie years is the most overrated argument in defense of Sanchez. The fact of the matter is the Colts knew they weren't going anywhere and they wanted Manning to air it out because they felt it would help him learn. That was not the strategy the Jets too with Sanchez last year. Manning also set a rookie TD record.

    It was quite clear in Manning's rookie season that he was going to be a very good to great QB. I don't think people thought he would be what he turned into, but Manning his rookie season was worlds better than Sanchez his rookie season. It wasn't even close.
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    1) Manning was the single most notable exception to the general rule since probably Troy Aikman.

    2) Manning was placed on a profoundly ****ty team, and was basically thrown into the fire. It was pure sink-or-swim; pretty much the opposite of what guys like Roethlisberger and Sanchez would later be asked to do.

    3) There were clear signs, even as a rookie, that Manning would become a hell of a QB. He had the mental presence, the fundamentals, and the physical talent to become an elite QB.

    4) Even in taking a terrible team on his shoulders, Manning still posted *much* better stats than Sanchez was able to even with the #1 running game and #1 defense at his disposal. There are much better comparables for Sanchez's situation, and Mike Lombardi astutely pointed out that the best one might be Rick Mirer.

    People trotting out the Peyton Manning argument conveniently overlook all the ways in which Sanchez wasn't even close to Manning. For example, Manning threw over twice as many TDs. He wasn't put in an optimum position to succeed: he was made to sink or swim, and unlike most other quarterbacks who are thrown into that situation, he made it.

    And FWIW, there's a reason why people are still using Peyton Manning as *the* archetype even 12 years later: because nobody's replicated it since. He's the definition of an outlier: someone who falls miles outside of the trend for readily explainable reasons, and therefore has no real predictive or explanatory power in regards to the other data points.
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    I think once we beat them Sunday (hopefully trounce them) Rex is going to start losing the players. I think Sunday we have an opportunity not just to go up 2 games on them, but to put them into a downward spiral. :)
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    I think so too, if the jests lose this game they won't recover for quit a while. It will be a psychological beat down.
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    Rex takes Jets back to grade school...

    "OK team...let's make this simple...what's three letters and goes meow?"

    Sanchize.."NYJ?"

    Revis.."dyam,coach...I KNOW it starts with a K..."

    Tomlinson...."yeah, and it's got two T's..."

    Woody..."uh...dog?"

    Cromartie..."shut up, fool and ax the expert...puzzy...I just LOVES the puzzy..."
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    I definitely agree with the idea that you can tell a lot in the rookie year. You dont have to be all-world, but you do have to show some flashes where you made some plays, made your team better, exhibited some leadership. And as much as I dont like him, Manning did that in his rookie year (note the 26 TDs). Contrast that to guys like Alex Smith, Tim Couch, David Carr and other #1s who didn't do much and for whom their original teams made a lot of excuses for, wasting 3-5 years on.
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    56.7% completion on 575 attempts with 26 TD's and 28 Int's with 3739 yards

    Clearly he had the potential to complete a lot of passes and score TD's. With the normal Rookie mistakes.

    Now look at Sanchez:

    53.8% completion percentage on 365 attempts with 12 TD's and 20 Int's 2444 yards.

    Edit: sorry didn't continue reading, so I reposted the same numbers that were already posted.
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    Re: Sloppy Jets go back to "grade school" and FNF

    Me either!? I thought the World went mad, or I wasn't seeing something.

    If you have been over to their board, the Jester fans are debating whether it's true that the OC, Schottenheimer's kid, popped Rex Ryan in the puss; or whether Rex punched out Schottszy, just after practice. All based on a rumor from some drunken gambler.

    But no one seems to doubt the report. And the fans are lining up as to whether Wrecks did it, or Schottzy did. No one even discusses the possibility that its a false rumor.

    The posters are dividing, choosing sides, getting verbally violent, obstreperous, and calling the other side out.

    This is just what we predicted. The wheels would come off the Jets Superbowl Chariot, but everyone assumed it would take three or four losses before it happened...

    I also thought the blowup would come from the fine upstanding, criminal, recruits on the team; but NOT initiated between the Coaches.:eek:

    Now back to the action at ringside.

    ...Schhottzy ducks the wild haymaker, and pounds the big body with a series of body blows. Wrecks responds with a bone crushing clinch, while a stream of of unreleaved "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" chants emanate from his maw. They teeter, and Rex falls on top of Schittzy crushing the wind and life from him and gasps for strength to rise himself...:eek:

    Now between rounds, would be the time for "Polly and a Blue Blades" promo jingle, but this ringside action is happening at the dismal Swamp, not at Gillette...

    (If you don't get the references, ask your Dad or Grandpaw, about Polly Parrot and Blue Blades) :(:cool:
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